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Synchronising with the Grid in Saudi Arabia

12/11/2009 6:35 AM

Hi all, I have been told that you are not allowed operate in 'grid parallel' mode in Saudi Arabia, that the grid operators don't allow it, so that an on-site engine or turbine must operate in standalone mode only. Is this the case? We are interested in installing some on-site generators in Saudi and this will naturally have a large impact. Thanks!

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Re: Synchronising with the Grid in Saudi

12/11/2009 7:03 AM

I understand your frustration about this. I suspect there have been cases in the past in which customers wanted to parallel with the grid, but their controls for doing so were inadequate. They may then have gotten out of phase or off voltage enough to cause problems. This is just one reluctance of larger-scale electrical providers; another is that they lose revenue while customers gain.

In the US, legislation has obliged electrical providers to allow "back-feeding" from customers, but I think the customers need to show that they can feed properly into the grid. In this respect, you may need to negotiate for some time with grid officials until you can convince them of your ability to tie in correctly (or disconnect in the event your power characteristics do not match).

Good luck with this, but you may need to be patient (and persistent). In time, I think you will succeed.

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Re: Synchronising with the Grid in Saudi

12/11/2009 7:36 AM

Thanks for your reply. We have installed a number of grid parallel systems in Europe and Australia, and are very familiar with the grid compliance requirements in the UK in particular. But we are looking at some projects in Saudi, and have heard that you simply cannot parallel with the grid, end of story. I hope you're right, in that our experience and technology will be enough to convince the locals that we know what we're doing.

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Re: Synchronising with the Grid in Saudi Arabia

12/11/2009 10:32 AM

I believe that some power systems in Saudi Arabia are 60 Hz, and some are 50 Hz. Other than that roadblock, I don't know know of any "rules" that would prevent it.

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Re: Synchronising with the Grid in Saudi Arabia

12/12/2009 8:58 AM

Yes the fact is such. I have worked in a Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, company who has SEC connection and own generation. But SEC (Saudi Electric Corporation) clearly mentioned in their contract that the customer is not allowed to connect or synchronize his power with their power. Thanks Hari

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Re: Synchronising with the Grid in Saudi Arabia

12/12/2009 9:38 AM

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Re: Synchronising with the Grid in Saudi Arabia

12/15/2009 1:24 AM

To give a hint about problems in "back feeding" to a grid. Suppose that say a 35kV grid supplies a number of consumers, some of whom can provide power in reverse. If the grid shuts off power in order to service the line, the line will still be energized by whoever may be back feeding the grid. This is a huge safety issue for line workers that might come into contact with the still-energized lines.

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