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Do You Honor Parking Chairs in Your Culture?

02/27/2010 4:44 PM

This morning, Tom and Ray on Car Talk got a call about parking chairs. The gist of their answer was that it depends on where you live. In North Boston, apparently, it is considered good manners to slash the tires on anyone who violates a parking chair, but in other cities, it's unheard of.

For those of you who don't know what a parking chair is, here's the Wiki article on Pittsburgh parking Chairs. But, essentially, here's the way it works. Most neighborhoods have on-street parking. That means the parking areas can never be cleared of snow by the municipality. Before anybody suggests alternate side parking, we here in Pittsburgh generally can't find the other side of the street, so that wouldn't work. So, everybody has to shovel out their own parking space. Having done that, folks feel like they "own" that space, at least till the spring thaw. Hoever, in order to properly stake your claim, you must now place one, preferrably two parking chairs in the shoveled space when your car is not in it. A regulation parking chair is the tubular chrome ones with the bright vinyl seat; however common law respects any recognizable chair, provided it appears sittable; you can't use a busted up chair. People who ignore these chairs and park in the space anyway run the risk of having their car keyed or their tires slashed. Last week, one spot owner found an interloper and hooked up the warm laundry water to a garden hose and encased the offending car in about a half inch of ice. Another squatter ended up in a quasi gun battle (his gun jammed, so he didn't actually shoot, and the cops only used a Taser).

What other cities have similar customs?

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02/27/2010 5:24 PM

I love the iced car retaliation. That's clever. Probably illegal, but clever. Hmm, how did you know that it was warm laundry water?

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02/27/2010 7:02 PM

The guy who did it called in to a radio talk show. He was pretty pleased with himself.

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02/28/2010 4:16 PM

My neighbor is an a*****e.

I was ill, paid my grandsons to shovel me out and the moment I moved my car 3 days ago he took the place.

I am tempted to toss acid all over his BIG shiny SUV.

Most Pittsburgh areas folks are cool about this, but we do have a few lazy cretins taking up valuable air space.

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02/28/2010 4:43 PM

No western PA jury would ever convict you. Have you no potatoes that fit his tailpipe?

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02/28/2010 4:46 PM

eggs are fun, especially after they freeze...

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02/28/2010 4:54 PM

Damn, I like the cut of your jib! That's a terrific solution; after all, by the time they tow it in, let it sit for 4 hours, and put it on the lift, there won't be a blockage.

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02/28/2010 5:03 PM

That was my spinnaker, you musta been observing from an odd angle... I was thinking about the paint job not the exhaust system... wish I could take credit for the cunning genius of that one... I guess sometimes it takes a team effort

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02/28/2010 5:36 PM

My same thought, gotta love TVP45, so creative.

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02/28/2010 6:21 PM

You might top it off with a print out of this thread to go under the wiper blades.

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02/28/2010 6:55 PM

You might think too, about getting some Cleveland Browns bumper stickers and putting 'em on his car. Depends on where you live. Some neighborhoods tolerate foreigners.

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02/28/2010 7:21 PM

I'm starting to think that maybe we should have TVP45 sedated and bound for the benefit of man...

on second thought... have at it TVP, I could use the entertainment!

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02/28/2010 7:32 PM

I don't know your age, but, if you're not old, when you get there, read Dylan Thomas's Do not go gentle into that dark night. and you'll find why I work so hard at being so stupid. (Well, actually, it's easy for me, but you get the idea.)

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02/28/2010 7:47 PM

Rage, rage against the dying of the light?

Don't work too hard at being stupid, in my experience stupid people get what they deserve (even if it takes a really long time).. perhaps you could foster a sort of quasi senility, get all the perks of being old with no diapers or cosmic backlash to worry about...

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02/28/2010 9:28 PM

Here's a cartoon to illustrate my point.

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02/28/2010 4:54 PM

Ain't that the truth?

As soon as he has another snoot full, I am gonna do somethiong, I know I am.

Wondered why I didn't toss those few potatoes growng eyes.

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02/27/2010 5:29 PM

For the few years I lived in Grand Forks ND I was known to bury cars with my snow blower if anyone took my spot being I was the only one on my street that actually kept a place open to the curb during the winter.

In the summer time my street was able to have cars parked on both sides and still have two lanes open down the middle. In the winter it was at times about 1 1/2 lanes wide with no side parking accept for my 40 foot stretch.

I also cleaned out the drive ways and walk ways for the few older folks in my neighborhood with my snow blower so I had a few well healed old coots backing me up if anyone took my spot.

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02/27/2010 7:06 PM

Yeah, we use parking chairs here, too. Or parking sawhorses, or parking buckets, whatever. Folks here are pretty laid back when it comes to highway courtesy. They figure it must be important if somebody takes the energy to mark a spot. Even though parking in town is at an absolute premium, marked spots are respected.

Even more cool is the courtesy of letting someone out of a side street. It takes getting used to, but a local will stop flow on a road to let someone out. Out-of-towners take a while to get the picture, they just look at you waiting for them. A flash of the headlights gives them the picture. Then a quick honk for thanks is expected.

It's a fun place to drive. Did I mention we drive on the left with American cars?

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02/27/2010 9:00 PM

Did I mention we drive on the left with American cars?

I think I would have a hard time getting used to that, especially since I only use one (my right) eye. That actually makes sense though; the driver is farther away from harm, at least head-on-wise. If the passenger side gets hit, the driver may still be able to control the vehicle to a stop (passenger may die, but driver survives). Here however, with the drivers being closest to the centerline, they are more likely to be injured thereby losing control and the passengers are more in danger of dying as a consequence (both may die).

I move that we, as a country, switch sides of the road!

Sounds like you have very low incidence of road rage. Very cool. Do you have a low redneck population?

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02/27/2010 9:28 PM

Rednecks don't last too long here. The population is at least ninety percent West Indian. They run things here, and we off islanders keep our heads down, pretty much. Racism is a subtle art form here, takes a little getting used to. I get along fine, maintain a good attitude. My truck is trimmed in Red, Yellow, and Green paint, and I talk local.

I hardly ever get over thirty five miles per hour, the roads are so twisty. It's good to be on the curb side of the truck, I can hug the ditch on narrow roads when meeting a twenty-one ton water truck. They Rule. And the garbage bin trucks and the cement trucks don't take any prisoners, either.

Just this week a semi somehow figured out how to tip his trailer over on a real nice pickup. The tractor was not in the picture, can't figure out how they disconnected, will have to ask my truck drivin' son. It was on a fairly straight stretch, between curves. He could have not had room to get any real speed up.

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"Just this week a semi somehow figured out how to tip his trailer over on a real nice pickup. The tractor was not in the picture, can't figure out how they disconnected, will have to ask my truck drivin' son. It was on a fairly straight stretch, between curves. He could have not had room to get any real speed up."

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AP - Numerous eyewitnesses watched in horror as a fully-loaded semi-trailer was dropped squarely onto pickup truck from what they variously described as a "silver blimp," "a propeller-driven metallic-looking UFO kind of thingie" and "the littlest darn zeppelin I ever seen. The guy musta run outta money."

Miraculously, none of the fresh vegetables in the trailer were bruised.

One eyewitness said the truck was trailer-bombed in retaliation for occupying a parking space allegedly reserved by the airship's pilot. Police noted that the space had been demarked by means of two remote controlled, camera equipped Howitzers. "Why he didn't just blow the truck 'out of the water' is beyond us. It would have been a lot easier than dropping a semi-trailer on it." Investigators later queried the pilot, who emphatically dismissed the allegation as "a ridiculous fabrication. Who know where these anonymous CR4 guests come up with this crap, but they always end their posts with a smiley." No charges were filed.

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02/28/2010 3:54 PM

At least you had the courtesy to drop it on a Ford.

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thanks, now I have to clean the coffee of my screen... jerk

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So that was you in the truck!

Sorry about the mess...

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02/28/2010 10:12 AM

Wait a minute, do not cast aspersions on rednecks - I am one, and my "redneck" neighbors will help with snow shoveling, will be patient at intersections when a person stalls their standard shift (with me when I was learning) and will slow and allow people into their lane, if traffic is heavy at interstate on and off ramps. It's the urbanites, and I'm guessing transplants who won't do this, since they are also typically impatient on rural roads when people who know each other and are passing in opposite lanes will stop for a chat when there's no one following. We do start up and go on when someone comes up, but it takes a minute to close a conversion. If you're from here you understand that.

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If you're gonna live up there, you have to learn "flatlander code" - it's an odd way they have of communicating. For example, if you're stopped in the road to ask Zeke Moyers if he's got any hay to sell, and one of 'em comes up behind and blows his horn two short beeps and one long honk, you might think he's impatient. But, that's just flatland code for, "I've been wanting to meet Jesus. By chance, would you have the Reverend Mossberg or Pastor Ithaca in the truck with you?"

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02/28/2010 3:52 PM

The fact that you're both literate and know how to use a computer speaks for itself: you're no redneck.

Nice try, but no cigar.

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02/28/2010 4:39 PM

not true, rednecks are cleverer than you give them credit.

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02/28/2010 7:16 PM

A little historical background: the term "redneck" originated with the red neck scarves worn by the miners in southern WV during the mine wars of the 1920's. And here's the kicker; there were two black members of the KKK, one a Baptist minister, in Logan County during that era. They were all united in fighting the coal companies, the Pinkertons and the US government. Coal mining is in my family; it's my culture. Ergo, I'm a redneck - and I'm not racist, just a little tetchy about some things.

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02/28/2010 7:28 PM

If he keeps bugging you, put on your Hazel Dickens CD. That'll fix him.

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02/28/2010 4:50 PM

Excellent answer, give me a redneck for a friend anyday over an urbanite or suburbanite.

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02/28/2010 7:39 PM

Hello Jaen,

We're dealing with semantics here. To me, a redneck is someone that is unreasonable, prone to quick anger without understanding the issue, unreasonably territorial, and paranoid. This is due, I expect, to deep-seated insecurity. I used to live in NC and ran into confrontations with several of them. It seems that they also resent people that have an advanced education (what a surprise).

Alternately, I have met some really great people from the southern states, some of whom are still very good friends!

In conclusion, I doubt that we're talking about the same people.

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02/28/2010 11:18 PM

Bingo. That kind of redneck. The trailer trash kind. Beats his wife and kids, and "whose best friend floats in the bottom of a glass.*"

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I used to live in a trailer park. It's not bad; you just have to remember to go indoors quickly as soon as you hear the banjos.

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03/01/2010 10:05 AM

Now down in my adopted 2nd home area (Huntington, WV/Ashland, KY), they tell me it all starts with tossing a banjo in the air and whoever catches can darn sure play it.

I kinda like bluegrass too, so I fit in when I turn 100% Redneck.

Ain't done the Trailer Park living yet, but maybe I will find a gal who lives in one and see how that scenario plays out.

In reality, a couple of the best welders and fitters I have ever run across are bona fide rednecks (about 120%) and wish I could use them on every project I come across.

One of the CWIs down there with his UT machine and beef farm is also top of the line.

And all of the gals I met still have their teeth.

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Howdy TVP45,

Here's a few tips for what to do about the banjo music. I have tested these myself and I know they work.

Just leave 'em a note telling 'em how truly you appreciate their extraordinary musical talents and 'happen to mention' that the Grand Ol' Opry is really desperate for pickers & grinners right now and they're taking applications. Include a courtesy map with the driving route prominently outlined in yellow highlighter. If it so happens that you actually live near the Opry, then tell 'em the same thing except that you substitute the words "Preservation Hall, New Orleans, LA" for the words "Grand Ol' Opry."

In the latter case, hand-draw a fake gift certificate that says it's good for one All-Night-All-You-Kin-Drink-Binge at any reputable Bourbon Street establishment, not that there actually are any. Write this part in extra-big letters and draw a jug with with 'XXX' scrawled on the front of it.. Heck, write everything in extra-big letters 'cuz they don't read too well, if at all. Don't worry about them not being able to read 'cuz the the jug you sketched says it all.

Make two dozen copies of your 'gift certificate' and put the copies along with your note in a quart-size ZipLoc bag. Then deliver it, but be prudent about when you do it.

If you tape your little 'care package' to their broken-down screen door in the morning, they'll still be passed-out from last night's drunken brawl and you'll be just fine. If they don't have a broken-down screen door you can always tape it to the sun-bleached hood of one of the cars up on cinder blocks in their front yard. Just set a jug of grapefruit wine right next to your ZipLoc bag to ensure that both get noticed. Then walk away slowly 'cuz their dogs are usually armed.

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That wasn't the banjer music I was referring to. But, if I had any gift certificates to the Grand Ole Opry, I'd use 'em myself. I always wanted to meet that Miss Minnie Pearl. And, Stringbean, where did he buy those shirts? Maybe he'd tell me; mine keep pulling out of my pants.

But, if you really like that kind of music (Do you flatfoot?), Nashville isn't the place to be. You wanna go up into Letcher Co, KY and see if Lee Sexton is still alive. He was (is?) the best drop-thumb banjo player I ever heard. Plus, the fellows up on the Cumberland will make you right to home.

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