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L1, L2, L3 and N Main Busbar Arrangement in LV Switchboard

04/29/2010 9:10 AM

Can somebody please guide me that if there is any standards governing the main busbar arrangement in a LV Switchboard?

From front to the back, should it be L1, L2, L3 & N or N, L3, L2 & L1? Which configuration is more preferred? Any standards saying so?

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Re: L1, L2, L3 and N main busbar arrangement in LV Switchboard

04/29/2010 9:50 AM

N:nearest

L3:near

L2:middle

L1:far

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Re: L1, L2, L3 and N main busbar arrangement in LV Switchboard

04/29/2010 10:13 AM

Dear Gradually,

Any write up or technical notes or technical specs or whatsover reference to this arrangement?

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Re: L1, L2, L3 and N main busbar arrangement in LV Switchboard

04/29/2010 10:36 AM

from chinese standard(国标)

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Re: L1, L2, L3 and N main busbar arrangement in LV Switchboard

04/29/2010 10:40 AM

Do you know any big brands of Switchboard (like ABB, Siemens, Schneider, etc...) is following this standard way of doing their busbar arrangement?

Actually i need some written documents to convince one of my clients.

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Re: L1, L2, L3 and N main busbar arrangement in LV Switchboard

04/29/2010 10:58 AM

some of ABB, Siemens.N,L1,L2,L3(from inside to outside)

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Re: L1, L2, L3 and N main busbar arrangement in LV Switchboard

04/29/2010 11:52 AM

What does the Client want?

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Re: L1, L2, L3 and N main busbar arrangement in LV Switchboard

04/29/2010 1:09 PM

the client wants L1, L2, L3 & N from front to rear. i am trying to convince him that our practice of the reverse way is also ok and need to support my statement perhaps with reference to some big names... that will be much more convincing

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04/30/2010 3:00 AM

Provide the Client with what he/she is prepared to pay for, subject to its being safe.

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Re: L1, L2, L3 and N main busbar arrangement in LV Switchboard

04/29/2010 9:57 AM

Busbar arrangement:

A, B, C (or 1, 2, 3) from left to right, front to back, top to bottom as viewed from front side.

Reference Standard:

ANSI C37.20.1 Section 7.1.1.1

NEC 430.97 (B)

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Re: L1, L2, L3 and N main busbar arrangement in LV Switchboard

04/29/2010 10:11 AM

Dear Sir,

I found this statement also in the internet, but my case is with neutral unlike what happen in the most MCC

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04/29/2010 11:14 AM

In addition to the above, other arrangement is also permitted by both of the standards but each phase shall be clearly marked. So, in regards to neutral, you can place it any suitable location (say A, B, C, N or 1, 2, 3, N) and clearly mark it.

Quote from the standards:

ANSI C37.20.1, Section 7.1.1.1: " …. Certain types of equipment may require other phasing arrangements and a neutral conductor. In these cases the phasing shall be suitably indicated."

NEC 430.97 (B): "…….Other busbar arrangements shall be permitted for additions to existing installations and shall be marked."

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Re: L1, L2, L3 and N Main Busbar Arrangement in LV Switchboard

04/30/2010 9:42 AM

Phasing is often driven by the switchgear chosen, e.g. using an ABB or Schneider 4 pole Air Circuit Breaker, N will be on left (looking from front) i.e. N, L1, L2, L3. Terasaki ACB will be L1, L2, L3, N again looking from front. Your choice, both are correct, if marked, as stated above.

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