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Gravity Powered Electricity Generator

05/15/2010 11:56 AM

Dear Friends,

As the natural resources getting out of stock, I'm planning to seriously work on the project "GRAVITY POWERED ELECTRICITY GENERATOR (GPEG)". It converts the gravitational force into the electrical energy and naturally, it will be the perpetual machine.!!

I know, so many tried this idea, but hardly got the results.

But, As my spiritual mind says, it's very much possible!! go for it!! save the earth..

Any body wants to join helping hands with me?? Please share your ideas..

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05/15/2010 12:56 PM

Those who laugh don't realize that this has been done for a long time. The most common method that gravity is used in electric power generation is called hydro-electric power generation. It is also the basis for wind power generation, but this is even more obscured to imagine.

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05/15/2010 1:37 PM

I mean a total PERPETUAL MACHINE!!

hydro elect power generation needs an additional energy to bring the water on top of the impeller. The Solar energy is doing it right now..

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05/16/2010 12:25 AM

Dear fellow-bangalorean, please do not let the mild ribbing get you down, after all, you asked for it with perpetual motion

However, i would urge you to google "Over-unity motor", specifially EV_Gray

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05/17/2010 3:17 AM

That image is an abbreviation of "Belvedere" by Maurits C. Escher. The original also has a quizzical-looking guy, seated near the conical plants, holding a "frumious crate." Escher's own reproductions were B&W lithographs. Perfect illustration for the theme, though!

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05/17/2010 3:38 AM

Thanks. i didn't know this, a treasure chest of illusions there. GA

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05/17/2010 3:22 AM

How it works ???????

can you please explain.............

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05/17/2010 3:39 AM

It doesn't. That's the point.

Please check the links given by Tornado, you will be amazed at the optical illusions there.

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05/17/2010 4:07 AM

Several months ago there was a CR4 thread on "The Mathematics of Beauty." In it "europium" posted many stunning fractal images. There were also shown some Escher works.

There was some other thread on solenoids that led to a site on "Physics Simulations and Artwork." Both of these threads are well worth seeking out. Enjoy!

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05/17/2010 4:51 AM

Thanks. The physics simlations are awesome ! But i couldn't see 'europium' in the "Mathematics of Beauty" thread .. there were many with "user-deleted" tag .. maybe i looked at the wrong thread?

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05/17/2010 5:35 AM

I will need to reinvestigate that thread. I get the impression that "europium" somehow ran afoul of some CR4 moderating criteria. He and some other excellent participants seem to have vanished from CR4. In any event, he contributed some of the most gorgeous imagery, and it will be a sore disappointment if he and his posts have been "disappeared."

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As far as I guess , Europium has moved on and taken the new Avatar as User-deleted-13 - why that name/name change? From a nice metallic ring to a null ?

Check user -eleted-13 - about 4000 or so posts and GAs, must match Eu

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05/15/2010 2:15 PM

A higher spirituality might aid in understanding physics better. When you learn to levitate, the energy can be recovered when you fall back down. Repeat ad perpetuum.....

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05/15/2010 2:31 PM

you start by explaining your idea and i will add to it as i understand it

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05/15/2010 3:39 PM

Your spiritual mind will soon collide directly with the laws of physics.

My vote is that the laws of physics will prevail!

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05/15/2010 8:50 PM

I thought there warn't no law west of the Pecos, pardner.

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05/15/2010 11:59 PM

I'm north of the Gila and east of the Salt rivers. Pi$$ on the Pecos. The laws of physics apply here, too.

Thar ain't no law ag'in packin' a pistol in yo pants in Arizona.

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05/16/2010 7:15 PM

Dude, we tole ya' "In yore waistband, not in yore pants." No wonder you ain't had to build an elementary school fer over thurty years. Dadburn double actions anyhow.

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05/16/2010 3:26 PM

These are very good places to start first

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_perpetual_motion_machines

Also see previous threads on CR4 regarding perpetual motion ideas and designs.

If at all in doubt, actually build a simple model of your generator design and see for yourself why "there is no free lunch", it doesn't even need to generate electricity - just operate perpetually.

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05/17/2010 12:16 AM

What are the idea in your mind ...if you share than hopefully we can also share something ,and may be in all discussion something comes which can be concrete....

Its quite very intersting topic and i like to work with you.....

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05/17/2010 1:46 AM
"One day man will connect his apparatus to the very wheelwork of the universe [...] and the very forces that motivate the planets in their orbits and cause them to rotate will rotate his own machinery."

Nikola Tesla

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05/17/2010 2:34 AM

If anyone tries to harness the orbital motions to tap energy, those motions will slow down, ultimately crashing the planets into their stars. Tesla was in many ways a genius, but he was also a kook. The quoted statement is just plain wrong.

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05/17/2010 2:15 AM

In this whole universe everything (matter,energy,life) came in to existence out of nothing. And I beleive it's not a magic!, But, with the help of laws of physics or the very basic laws beyond our imaginations.

Still this creation is under process.

I think we human (body mind mechanism) beings are the multi purpose tools made to help GOD in his job (like my PC shares my work load, more accurate & faster in many aspects)

My effort towards the electricity generation is to convert the gravitational force.

the gravity is unidirectional needs to be made bidirectional or find the antigravity.

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05/17/2010 2:43 AM

This airy-fairy "imagination" thing seems not to have resulted in any testable practical devices, nor even in any proposals that might be examined. If you wish to be taken seriously by knowledgeable persons, you will need to do better than that.

True creativity is not merely a shot in the dark (in literature, maybe, or in scams; but not in science or engineering); it requires mastery of well known principles.

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05/17/2010 3:44 AM

the gravity is unidirectional needs to be made bidirectional or find the antigravity.

You have hit the nail on head. But the problem is as on date the antigravity exists only in science fiction.

(Note before you proceed current conducting superconductors are not antigravity devices, they merely balance the gravitational force by the EM force).

The next question is : As you take off the gravitational energy, will the gravity become weaker? it must be. As you take out any type of energy and transduce into another form (chemical/ Electromagnetic..) The source loses that type of energy by that much amount.

What will be effect of lost gravity, (by whatever amount) from a zone ? Especially if it becomes a zonal weak point ?

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05/18/2010 6:33 AM

I did not studied about losing the gravity of the earth like ozone layer. anyhow I need just to transform one into another energy. the transformed energy will be available around earth.

I think gravity will be the last energy form that any matter holds till it's death. Hence, the gravity stays till the end of the earth.

Even if it becomes weaker, let's enjoy the moon walk on earth!

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05/17/2010 4:43 PM

Serptilium: A gas discovered on the moon, having antigravity properties when heated.

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Golly Gee Willerkers, Tom Swift is not going to be very happy with you.

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05/18/2010 11:07 AM

Take a look at this from a Nasa newsletter...

Get the full pdf at nasa techbriefs

You may be taking your first step in perpetuum

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Thank you sridhar, for your positive feeling of wanting to push ahead with something.

Where do you stay in b'lore?. my website: dita.co.in

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Malleswaram. Near MES College. Do give me a call on my mobile, which i will email to you on this, CR4 normally don't want personal info to be on the forum.

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I would suggest, as a starting point, the application of your spiritual mind to the laws of thermodynamics.

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If gravity can bind all matter and ignite stars, it can be manipulated to produce electricity. www.gravitygenerator.net

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It ain't nice to mess with gravity.

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It's very much impressive!!. But, I could not find anything in detail on www.gravitygenerator.net ?

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Gee, I wonder why?????

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Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!

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Why? Well, just think if you invented a great way to make utility scale electricity by manipulating gravity. Would you just spill the beans to the world on a website?

You would have to protect the information for yourself your investors(if you could find any), until you actually build your first full scale power plant, wouldn't you?

Frankly, the generator is simplicity that you would understand at a glance, finding an investor is the more difficult task.

Skeptisism would be my natural reaction as well.

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"You would have to protect the information for yourself your investors(if you could find any), until you actually build your first full scale power plant, wouldn't you?"

Arthur C. Clarke proposed a satellite communication system that could have made him millions, yet did not patent the idea. Marie Skłodowska-Curie intentionally refrained from patenting the radium-isolation process, so that the scientific community could do research unhindered. These are but a few examples of the world advancing at no great enrichment of the inventor.

I have heard from many, many individuals that the world will be a better place after their perpetual energy device/idea is implemented. So, why must this idea be protected? Is it not for the whole world?

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You know the answer to your rhetorical question.

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Yes, I believe we all most of us do, but I want him to say the words.

When said aloud, there may be an 'Ah-HA! moment. [edit] ... but I sort of doubt it.

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Yes, for the whole world. But first I have to take my cut for my labour and time, don't I? Wouldn't you? As stated anyone will understand and be able to make their own after one glance, so then it will be the worlds. Target date 12/12/12.

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"...anyone will understand and be able to make their own after one glance, so then it will be the worlds."

And so the value of patent protection is...what?

Just tell us, will you? How is this supposed to work?

Publish or perish.

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I don't believe in the value of the patent either. You could spend more money in legal fees than it's worth. Also, you need to get a patent in every single country as I understand it.

You didn't answer my question.

I will say it's not free energy, you still have to lift an opposing weight to utilize gravity, it's just that you can free yourself from the combustion chambers to make it clean(not free) electricity.

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Your question to me in #44: "Wouldn't you?"

I have no history altering devices or techniques to offer the world, so I have never had to wrestle with the problem. I would like to think I would not, but greed is a powerful motivator.

"I will say it's not free energy, you still have to lift an opposing weight to utilize gravity, it's just that you can free yourself from the combustion chambers to make it clean(not free) electricity." Oh, really? In your #34 you said "If gravity can bind all matter and ignite stars, it can be manipulated to produce electricity" Maybe I have misunderstood you. Can you explain further "...produce electricity"?

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09/07/2011 12:56 PM

Cerainly, I am saying gravity is a force. Any force can be made to produce electricity, correct? The manipulation I make on gravity is the same that anyone would make, lift an object to create potential energy.

If you just let go of the object, it hits the ground. (does not break any of Newton's laws)

If you let the weight down on a series of moveable objects that make magnets past coils of wire, you will generate some amount of electricity until the object hits the ground (does not break any of Newton's laws).

This is the 'manipulation of gravity to produce electricity', that we are referring to here.

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09/07/2011 1:04 PM

Like raising the weights on a longcase clock?

You are correct: This is, indeed, clean energy (no fossil fuel consumed), and does not violate any of Newton's laws.

Thanks for the clarification. I think you have saved us all a lot of time.

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09/07/2011 1:08 PM

Almost exactly true. The subtle, minor differences would be acceptable on nearly any other forum but an engineering forum. The electrical energy produced will always be smaller than the potential energy released by the lowered mass.

Nothing new here. At least nothing new presented here.

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09/07/2011 2:27 PM

This is new!

What's new is that these gravity powered electricity generators can be built to full utility scale and replace coal and nuclear power.

This is a thread about gravity powered electricity generators, not perpetual motion machines, that we wouldn't believe in anyway.

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09/07/2011 2:38 PM

Hydro-electric pumped storage is not only not new, it is being used today at full utility scale. This type of power storage has had mixed success. In a few places, people found out that these systems did not operate as well as anticipated (water ground leakage and evaporation) so that it was more efficient to just turn off a few power plants than to smooth out the load for all plants to remain operating.

You do yourself a disservice though by calling your machine an electricity generator. What you are proposing is an energy storage system.

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09/07/2011 11:56 AM

Take your cut and run I presume. If you really have solved our energy problem with your research, I'm sure you could make a good living for the rest of your life working on the nuances of your system.

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09/07/2011 12:31 PM

My cut is mine, isn't it? (will spend on childrens eduction, food, maybe a little wine etc.) Yes, I would continue to work on the project. I don't have anything better to do, actually. The plan is to shut down all coal and nuclear power plants and clean up their mess, as a responsible corporate entitiy.

Run, there is no where to run to? I already live on a tropical island. I'm not taking anybodys money except those who have purchased the electricity. So, your statement although it is very presumptious, is not valid.

Maybe you would like to help me bring this to the world?(doubt it)

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09/07/2011 2:44 PM

Skeptisism would be my natural reaction as well.

As is mine to what appears to be yet another over-unity investment scam using the old magnets and gravity free-energy idea to milk investors of their money.

A quick CR4 and internet search uncovers numerous other scam and over-unity attempts along similar principles.

With the information available to us what other conclusions do you expect us to draw?

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09/07/2011 3:18 PM

You are correct there is not enough info to make any other conclusion. Please note I have not said anything about free energy or overunity other than, it's not free energy, and that it is, created potential energy, by force(which must be applied to lift weights or objects, in all worlds with gravity) I think Redfred is right when he says the machine is a power storage device. However, the real key to the efficiency is in the design of the stator/rotor(that I loosley term a generator) which makes using gravity possible.

Noone asked with which force the potential energy is to be created.

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09/07/2011 3:33 PM

"Noone asked with which force the potential energy is to be created."

We are all waiting to hear it. It has been difficult for me to not ask!

Let's have it.

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09/07/2011 4:35 PM

ha ha

Well, to keep the suspense going for one more response, would you please answer me this question regarding the force of gravity.

If you drop an object from a height where it takes 1 second to hit the ground (a force of 9.8m/s2 has acted on the weight for 1 second),

then you take the same weight to the same height but this time you place it on a moveable object that only allows the weight to hit the ground after 5 seconds of 9.8m/s2 force having been applied to it.

Is this scenario, do we have 2 different values for total work done?

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09/07/2011 4:48 PM

The force from gravity in earth's inertial reference frame is relatively constant here but is always scaled by the mass of the object. A one kilogram mass thus gets a 9.8 Newtons of force from gravity at all times not just while in free fall. This force is present for one micro second, for one second, for 5 seconds and for the rest of your and my lifetime baring an Earth cleaving asteroid impact.

Just from how you've phrased your question I suspect you have a misunderstanding of Newtonian Physics.

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09/08/2011 3:15 AM

Well, good knowledge exchanges between Gravitymachine,Doorman,redfred.

Definitely, There is a need of 'Another Force' to lift object opposite to the Gravity to generate electricity. or, you need a FLICKERING GRAVITY, like in the motor flickering (AC) Current in the STATOR helps ROTOR to Rotate.

Basically, This AC is a combination of two forces colliding to neutralise (Water & Gravity).

Dear Gravitymachine; I've done few very basic experiments. and got few conclusions. I regret, I could not fully engage myself into this due to the lack of time & money.

Probably, my involvement may help a bit into this New Idea.

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09/08/2011 2:43 PM

The other force to lift the weights can only be of the most simple gravity bound skin wrapped surface dweller type, muscle.

I say there are a myriad of ways that we can tap extremely small amounts of clean energy with essentially zero impact, to lift weights.

For one example, the generator installed at a University can utilize the vertical movement of the students and faculty climbing the stairs on their normal regular schedule, whereby each student picks up a 4 ounce(+/-) weight at the bottom of the stairs, then drops it off at the top of the stairs. These small zero impact weights accumulated over the course of the day will generate a certain amount of electricity as limited by the generator(which of course I claim can produce many more time the electricity per unit of force than any other generators on Earth today).

10,000students/weights = 10,000powerstrokes.

Instead of purchasing fuel or paying the full electricity bill, the university could pay healthy, hungry, energetic students to cart wheel barrows full of the weights.

My(the worlds') generator had to be designed to accept a regular size weight over and over for it's power stroke.

I most certainly accept your offer of help on the project. I think a company that is going to replace coal and nuclear will most certainly require a small army of employees. Not that we get paid until we make electricity, of course.

As redfred objectively notes, I am hardly a well studied engineer and although I have the original design of the stator completely figured out, we(the world) need to make sure the actual placement of the coils and magnets are in an anti-cogging fashon. Could you help us with that?

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09/08/2011 2:58 PM

Why bother with the weights? Why not have the students climb the stairs, sit in a chair inside the bucket, and their combined body weight will work it?

What is my cut? I changed my mind; I am greedy, and I want a piece of the pie!

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[edit] Are you at liberty to discuss this generator technology, "...which of course I claim can produce many more time the electricity per unit of force than any other generators on Earth today. I am certain we would all like to hear about this as well.

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09/08/2011 3:23 PM

Why not buckets? That takes time the students don't have.

Picking up a little weight on your way up the stairs requires essentially no time, none more time.

Yes, the entire weight of the students could be captured on the way down with an elevator lever system, which would require almost none extra time, but I don't think the bucket concept will ever be implemented, thus no cut for you(yet).

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09/08/2011 3:45 PM

The classic double face palm.

Why is it that people who have no formal schooling in physics are convinced that they can solve the energy crisis.

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09/08/2011 4:15 PM

Why is it that people who have no formal schooling in physics are convinced that they can solve the energy crisis.

Maybe because the people with formal schooling in physics, apparently can't.

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09/08/2011 9:32 PM

Wait, wait, there really is a good way to do this. We both can make some really big bucks off this.

What we do is mount the stairs on a spring, kinda like those plate holders in cafeterias or on Navy ships. As the students climb the stairs, the stairs go down, compressing the spring. Since the students don't go up, they do no work. Since the stairs go down only from the weight of all those students, no work is done there either. So now you have all those students at the top of the stairs. They can slide down, doing work as they go. As their weight drops off, the stairs will rise, releasing the energy in the spring. This is not over unity. This is over duality.

Lessee. I get 62 % cut for the practical model. You get 47% for the idea. The OP gets 17% for the original impetus, and we'll give the rest to Washington DC to use for fixing the Monument.

My psychiatrist says I have to include this mug shot of me whenever I ask anybody for money. Don't know why, but I do look like my ole dad, don't I?

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09/09/2011 9:19 AM

Great picture! Ha ha.

No, I'm not at liberty to at this point to give away the actual workings of the stator/rotor(generator). Are you willing to sign a NDA?

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09/09/2011 10:26 AM

You're not very good at math, are you. The efficiency of most generators today in converting mechanical energy into electrical energy is over 50%. This is why moderate size generators do not require anything more that air cooling while the engine that converts stored chemical energy into mechanical energy requires more substantial cooling. So you cannot get a ten fold increase in generator efficiency by any configuration of rotor and stator windings.

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09/08/2011 3:44 AM

"If gravity can bind all matter and ignite stars, it can be manipulated to produce electricity"

True, I think, this whole Universe is into the hidden GEAR MECHANISM.

In this solar system, all the planets(gears) revolve around the BIG Master GEAR (SUN).

We (Earth worms) need to put a tiny, tiny, small gears in between these couplings to TAP the ENERGY OUT. (Like, we do put impellers in between Water Falls). In this case, we are using TWO FORCES colliding.

And Offcourse, It must be done before 12/12/12. isn't it?

Hurry, WANTED INVESTORS...now.

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09/08/2011 10:02 AM

Nice metaphors. Unfortunately metaphors only give people a colorful perspective about how things work. They don't provide a usable theory that allows people to make predictions or measurements.

You cite the very sentence that gravitymachine said that immediately made me question his understanding of kinematics and gravity.

"If gravity can bind all matter and ignite stars, it can be manipulated to produce electricity"

First this sentence is a logical fallacy. Just because a force binds all matter does not mean that we can manipulate that force. Now this may have just been another colorful metaphor but it does imply an unspecified level of control of gravity that we do not have. Also gravity is the weakest known force that hardly binds the universe. It is weaker than the electromagnetic force by many orders of magnitude. If it wasn't then molecules and chemistry as we know it would not exist.

So gravitymachine may have a real creative improvement on how to use the energy storage capability of the Earth's gravity field. I doubt it though.

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09/08/2011 4:55 PM

Yes, putting gears(figuratively) in between the ultimate height of the weight and it's destination(surface of the Earth), and cleanly lifting the weight, of course.

Setting a date is important in accomplishing goals, so I'm told.

12/12/12 is correct.

I have set the date of 11/11/11 to have all the patent material ready for submission.

Investors, huh, I think we have to work within my $400/month investment budget, which is open for your delegatation of expenses, should you wish.

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09/08/2011 3:45 AM

No, work = force x distance in line with force. Taking more time makes no difference.

9.8m/s2 is an acceleration, not a force.

These and like confusions may well defeat your project.

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09/08/2011 4:03 PM

Therefore, we can move more objects than just the original one, the same amount of distance (as we did the original one), and still only use the same original amount of force, correct?

I think this confusion makes for 'thinking out of the box', a whole lot easier.

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09/08/2011 8:37 PM

Ok I will ask the question (since no one else here seems to have, unless I missed a post), how did you come up with the value of '100 times the electricity per horsepower than any current generators on earth' (as stated on the website)?

This claim I find particularly hard to believe based on what appears to be the expected result of gravity-driven permanent magnet energy harvesting. This is stating clearly that (for example) a small 10kW generator could produce 1MW simply by harnessing magnets and gravity. Sounds very much like a number of other unworkable over-unity designs to me (see other previous threads on CR4).

Have you performed any studies, scale prototype lab tests,etc to back up your claims when we and potential investors inquire or are your figures and ideas purely theoretical?

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09/11/2011 1:44 AM

Yes, the force to power the 10kw will produce 1mw.

I have just finished up 7 months of studies with hands-on mechanical research. Which is to say I built the mechanical part of the generator without the coils and magnets. I studied its powerstroke with hands-on experimentation of the input force.

So, the number is based on observation but because the lab proto-type was not a complete protoype the number is still technically theoretical. Based on my observations and data I do believe 100X is achievable.

If this number is true, imagine the new doors it opens for clean sources of input energy! It makes my 'students and faculty climbing the stairs' scenario very realistic.

Nevertheless, the task now at hand, is for me, to build a full working model. Part of the process requires that I get off this tropical island and back to civilization, where there are precision machine shops and general infrastructure. I'll be flying within two weeks(going north for the winter?). Barring the myriad obstacles in front of me, six months should do it.

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09/11/2011 2:05 AM

I do not believe this at all, at least not as described thus far; and I predict a total flop.

See ya in six months ± (or + + +....)

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It's been six months...

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09/08/2011 2:54 AM

Nice, You are really in deep with this research.

I liked it.

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09/07/2011 6:31 AM

well, Good Cartoon Joke TVP45, I enjoyed it.

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09/08/2011 9:23 AM

Ooooh! Ooooh! Have you read this?

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm

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09/08/2011 10:08 AM

In the gallery of ingenious but impractical devices, I love the kissing water fountain. I'm surprised an artist hasn't made this.

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