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Battery Rating

06/30/2010 8:04 AM

What does a 180 amp-hour battery means does it supply 180 amp continuously for an hour? If yes what happens if more load is connected?

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06/30/2010 8:21 AM

Roughly speaking, if you double the load to 360A, it will only supply it for 30 minutes.

The rating is the product of the current and the time. It's only approximate, because some types of battery are better at higher discharge rates and some better at lower rates.

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06/30/2010 8:34 AM

Dear all,

A 180 amp-hour battery can supply 22.5A for 8 hours.

Battery discharge current x supply time is not constant value.

If supplying 180A, the time is much less than one hour. You must ask for information to your battery vendor.

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06/30/2010 8:36 AM

Please check the Voltamps of the battery. If it is a 12Volt battery the voltamps is 2160VA. You can connect a load of 1.84kW. If you are connecting more load to the battery the battery will not take . It will discharge immediately and the purpose will not solve

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06/30/2010 9:45 AM

C/20 is the formula most commonly used to describe a battery according to its amp hour rating; for instance a 400Ahr rated battery means that a 20 amp load placed upon the battery delivers at that rate of energy for 20 hours upon reaching the manufacturer's per cell rating, usually about 1.7 volts or 10 volts for a dead, discharged battery. There are different discharge or load ratings such as a 10 hour or 100 hour rating resulting in a different Amp Hour rating for the very same battery. A battery is an electrical potential energy source whose capacity (amount of energy density delivered over time) is determined by the rate/time over which the battery will deliver a set rate of load/discharge. The lesser the load, the longer the rate, the higher the load the shorter the rate.
http://www.windsun.com/Batteries/Battery_FAQ.htm

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07/01/2010 12:33 AM

the rate of a battery is given for a 20 hours discharge, 180AH battery with 9 amp load will discharge in 20 hours,

efficiency will be reduced with higher discharge current, for 180 amp a standard battery may stay for only 30 minutes,

for 360 amp it stay only for 10 minutes

you can check specifications of each battery type from vendor

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07/01/2010 8:33 AM

The "standard" amp hour rate is set against a 20 minute benchmark.

Or a projection based on the energy delivered for the first 20 minutes.

Generally in this Ah range it's a guideline for cranking engines.

Other amp hour rating systems apply to 'deep cycle' cells, use longer times, and give different numbers. Typically "2 hour rate" and "8 hour rate".

So the answer is no; it will not give necessarily 180 amps for an hour. It fact such a load may damage it.

If you need to know what a particular cell will yield, you need to get the manufactures discharge rate curves.

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07/01/2010 10:06 AM

Several comments have referred to a "common" or "standard" benchmark. In truth, the benchmark depends on the intended battery service and the applicable engineering standards in the region (IS, BS, ANSI or other). The notes below are applicable in most regions.

  • Deep cycle batteries (used in solar & wind energy systems) use the 20 hour discharge rate described by Peter to determine the amp-hour capacity (C/20h).
  • High-rate batteries use the 20 minute discharge rate described by 34point5 C/20m).
  • Stationary batteries in float service (mainly used for utility & telco) use an 8 hour rate (C/8h).

Most manufacturers will provide a chart showing the total energy available at various discharge rates.

It is important to note that discharge capacity is not linear. A higher discharge rate will result in a lower total energy capacity.

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07/01/2010 9:05 PM

I like an answer that is better constructed, referenced and complete than mine GA

Also to Phaddy - GA for a good bit of 'extra understanding'.

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07/01/2010 2:14 PM

Ah / A drawn = hours ....A = amps Ah = battery rating

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07/01/2010 6:28 PM

A battery has an internal resistance, which dissipates energy. The more current drawn the greater the loss, and it is a greater proportion of the energy delivered.

eg if the battery volts is 10V and internal resistance is 1 Ohm, and you have a load of 9 Ohms, then the apparent terminal volts under load is 9V. The battery dissipates 1W and the load 9W.

eg if you now have a load of 1 Ohm, the apparent terminal volts under load is 5V, the battery dissipates 25W and load 25W.

Of course when you charge the battery, some charge heats up the battery, because of the internal resistance, so you can't push too many amps into it.

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07/02/2010 3:15 AM

You have received some really good and accurate answers here, I do not see any need to improve on what has already been said.

But you want to be careful when "sizing" batteries for a particular job as going by the factory infos will probably mean that within a year, the battery will be discharging too far and consequently, the speed of damage to the battery will increase dramatically......

To avoid this, never charge above say 13.4 volts (assuming a 12 volt battery).

If its a car type battery (as against leisure), never leave discharged for long below 12.6 volts.

Never "completely" discharge a car type battery, it may not ever recover. Even leisure batteries do not take kindly to being fully discharged regularly....

Plan to have at least twice as much stored electricity available as you actually need, remember that if you only charge to 13.4 volts, the battery is only around 70% charged, not 100%!! So buy batteries with at least twice the capacity you calculated as a general rule. More is better.

Never gas a battery, remember that gassing produces a gas that can be ignited by the tiniest spark and send bits of a battery in many directions in a very short space of time!!!

Wear proper safety equipment/clothes, have the right things available for a leak or if you get the acid on your body etc., know where they are kept and follow all the rules for avoiding explosions.

Manufacturers can often help with proper safety infos.....

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09/15/2010 3:56 AM

if load increae battrey operating time perid increase becouse load curent increase

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