Does Indian Education Lack in Mechanical Engineering?

i know abbreviation rule.and i follow it. but i got your point. i am very new to company environment and a newcomer from college. i am trying my best to be a professional. hence i wanted to know where i stand on international level with my degree from Indian university.

i would also like to add that Indian's do have good English speaking quality but my mother tongue is not English. so i may not be up to the mark.

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Without access to a statistically significant sample, it is impossible to say.

i understand. but can you tell me what you learn in degree course of mechanical engineering?

you are taking my views in wrong way , sir. i am a student from very remote place in India. i saw people in my company who are highly updated about current knowledge. also on this forum i read some discussions which were very difficult for me to understand. and i felt like coping up with people like you.

that is why i am asking you to share your views so that student like me will get a direction for our future life.

i am a proud Indian. and simply want to help my nation by communicating with world.

accepting our drawbacks and trying to improve is not a crime.

PLEASE DO NOT MISUNDERSTNAD.

As far as the syllabii is there and he curriculum is there we are not inferior.

What we lack is, as I have seen, is in the attitude.

Please understand about one aspect.

When you come out of college, in Indian context, you have been totally grilled in theories (at least at our old times). When you are face to face with the practicals, often you may not be able to exactly relate them.

It does take time- which may be a few months (at least) to a year or so.

But to reach the level of the people in this forum well- there are people who have been for 50 Yrs in field post college, I my self have been 30 odd years.

Do not try to compete then you will feel inferior (or even superior- after all what we have studied are papyrus for you) in certain aspects

What you must try to do is learn at whatever you do.

Your college have created the foundation for you. Now each thing you see around, question to yourself why. First try to explain yourself. take time. _{Do not go for shortcut and ask me. i get irritated when people ask without thinking themselves.}90% of the things you would be able to guess if not outright know. The struggle to understand yourself will make you remember it and understand it further. Only when you fail (and that should be in few cases, and that also in some complex mechanisms) ask for broad queries with your collegues (who are bound to know a bit more than us) or us and then you may get help.

you are very much right. and you told me exactly what i needed to know..

thank you very much.

Very view Americans could speak or write Indian so the fact that you can attempt to communicate effectively IMO is a testament to what someone called "attitude". Props IMO.

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In America, we are taught how to research a problem ourselves (using search engines, books, etc.) rather than immediately asking strangers to do our work for us. When we do need to ask for help, we are expected to describe the problem clearly and in detail.

We are also expected not to use "text-speak" or "leet-speak" in professional or academic communications.

Yes, we do not have practical sessions as much as we have theory classes. and that is the reason we tend to ask experienced people for directions. In our country, we do have institutes like IIT where very effective methods of teaching is adopted like you mentioned.

We also , are not allowed to use "leet-speak". As far as our English speaking abilities are concerned, most of us take education in our own different 20+ launguags. But surely there are increasing number of people who can fluently communicate in English as good as an American.

My question here is, have you ever interacted with an indian engineer? what is your opinion about our technical skills (keeping our attitude, launguage and everything else apart) ?

It is not racist to insist on proper editorial forms.

The OP should have been phrased thus:

"Hi, I would like to ask all non-Indian people out there, what do you think of your educational system? What's that extra thing you have in practical knowledge sense? Do you have any idea about our Indian syllabus? How do you find it?"

There are some odd literary exceptions, but in correct writing the first words of sentences, proper nouns such as "Indian", and the pronoun "I" are always capitalized. Textspeak such as "ppl', "u', and "ur" is not acceptable.

The literary exceptions include e.e. cummings, bell hooks, archy, and mehitabel.

--Editor Crankshaft--

On CR4, "mrswamy", "gsuhas", and "kvsridhar" are knowledgeable and professional in their style.

Thanks to all. You all were surely helpful. But very few really understood my question. I agree that I lack in writing skills. But we are here as an ENGINEER. My first priority will always be to improve my technical skills.

From above discussion I understood that I am far behind in English but we here generally do business in our native language.

Still I am clueless about relative difference in Indian and International educational system (specially for Mechanical Engineering).

I hope somebody will keep aside all these punctuation and spelling mistakes, and give me UNAMBVIGIUOS answer to my question like a real Engineer.

BINGO! U are the person who gets the point! I agree with each and every word you wrote. And thanks to you that in my life I will never curse my educational background if i fail. It is really now my responsibility to be a good engineer.

You write really well , simple and to the point.

Thanks a lot.

hi sanimisra, You are not far behind in English, you are moving towards English language.I am also moving towards to learn this FOREIGN language. k regarding our educational system, i haven't much knowledge regarding international educational system... But regarding ours, i think it's a good one. It is in the hand of engineers who can change this system into superb one. They have to gather lot of practical knowledge and they should do project with their own idea....

I don't know from where you have taken degree, but in most of the colleges here, student spend maximum time in theory lectures and very few hours in lab. Industry visits are rare. and generally student tend to get marks for passing and don't really understand what they have learned.

Our system is marks oriented and not knowledge oriented. That may be the reason for our failures at field.

we should learn from others. and help our nation develop.

thanks for being positive about situation.

ya, Our system is marks oriented but it is knowledge oriented also. I already told that it's on the students hand to convert our educational system into a valuable one. We can get practical knowledge in working environment but regarding theory, college is the only place to learn. Of course, our system has to provide some more practical classes but these classes won't give full knowledge. There should be some difference between workers and engineers. Thats come only by Theoretical.

I think these observations are quite perceptive. There is another recent thread from a chemical engineer in India who seems ineligible to take a boiler operator exam. This is crazy, but it seems to be a common problem in places that make too much distinction between "academic" tracks and practical tradesperson apprenticeships.

My guess in this regard is that India has good academic programs, but is relatively lacking in trade experience. I once encountered a similar situation in Vladivostok. The Russian engineers were great in academics, but they raised some irrelevant problems that had long since been addressed by commercial mass production technology.

Communication, research and analysis, and project management ARE technical skills for an engineer.

What do you consider to be technical skills? Arithmetic? The ability to recite memorized facts?

I think you are not reading discussion properly. we are not discussing about "WHAT EXCATLY TECHNICAL SKILLS MEAN? "

and frankly speaking, i have seen people who don't know how to speak in English at all or rather "communicate " but they could understand problem really well and could give pretty good solutions.

I think understanding a concept and to be able to apply it , is simply technical skill of engineer.

whatever you are defining will give a person from uneducated background severe complex even though he is good at his TECHNICAL SKILLS.

BROTHER, Communication, research and analysis, and project management ARE TOGETHER CALLED......... APPLICATION!!

It is true. We do have good academic track.so as to have strong conceptual base. just we don't know what to do with it. we have plenty of concepts in mind. but they were taught on black board. nobody told us how it is co-related in practice.

There are brilliant minds in our nation but system as a whole is lagging behind developed countries.

Brain drain is also a big issue here. People are capable of improving situation but they work for other country for money.

Teachers who develop basics in primary education are not well trained and hence many students don't like physics and maths but are forced to do engineering by parents for reputation. and such students even don't mind this.

I may sound "off- topic" but I think these are some reasons at grass root level.

THANKS TO ALL.

No matter what is your nacionality as long you have a good interactive between people you met doesnt cause a big issue of what you learn from your universities.

This is the answer i expected. its not about job you get and your attitude and your communication skills... there is something certainly wrong with our basic education system.

and you pointed it out very correctly.

thanks..