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Future of OpenSource Under Attack

10/05/2010 10:00 PM

There are a number of indicators that the "big boys" are doing everything they can to cut the legs out from under the OpenSource software industry, and this makes me a bit nervous, because if the attacks are successful, it could seriously limit the options one has available with regards to software. Two recent developments that are of greatest concern are the purchase of Sun by Oracle, and the slew of lawsuits against those involved in the Android telephone business.

The disappearance of Sun has an impact in that Sun was an active developer (and owned the rights to the name) of OpenOffice- this has made the OpenOffice group nervous enough that they have introduced the same product under the LibreOffice mark. Sun also was the major sponsor of a project called "Orca", perhaps lf little interest to most people, but of significant importance to my associates that must deal with impaired vision- their only viable option is the very expensive Jaws solution, which also tends to limit them to the more expensive Windows operating system (and some of my visually-impaired associates are not in a financial position to acquire these more expensive solutions). Oracle is now suing Google over the use of Java for the Android Mobile telephone operating system- when Sun originally put Java on the market under Open Source license (I am not sure they used the GPL license, and I am not sure what software patents Google supposedly violates by using Java for Android, but the whole things sounds like an attack on OpenSource). And, closer to my own heart, Sun was the developer of VirtualBox, which is the best solution I have found to keeping my legacy software (which I bought and paid for) functional. and, of course, there is Sun't MySQL, the OpenSource database solution, and OpenSoalris...

The second issue is the round of attacks against the Android operating system, both the lawsuit against Google by Sun, and Apple and Microsoft suing telephone manufacturers that adopt the Android platform (the latest being Microsoft's suit against Motorola). Why are Apple, Microsoft and Oracle attacking Android? could it have something to do with the fact that Android appears to be far more popular than the MS Windows for Mobile (MS is reportedly about to introduce version 7 of this) and the Apple iOS?

Does this sound like the current patent process is "promoting innovation/invention", as has been reported was a primary reason for establishing patent law in the US in the first place? I am not opposed to allowing an inventor to pursue financial gain from his hard work, but when the major players in an industry use this same patent law to stifle competition, as appears to be the case here, the process appears to be backfiring...

I am somewhat dependent on OpenSource solution- I can not afford, say, a $9,000 license for COMSOL Multiphysics, or $4,000 for AutoCAD, or the cost of adding seats so that my employees can use the software as well. If I want to pursue the business opportunities offered by engineering software, I must rely on OpneSource solutions (f which there happen to be quite a few very good ones).

My personal approach to this situation is to boycott products from Microsoft, Oracle, Apple, and Hewlett Packard (HP is involved in the slew of anti-Android law suits as well, but my primary boycott of HP is much older than this- I can not forgive them for dragging the most respected name in Test Equipment into the mud). I am now avoiding any software built on Java (the original developer of Java is no longer with Oracle/Sun, having left in a huff), although this is not always easy to determine or practical. My limited impact as a single consumer is unlikely to have any real impact on the situation, but it makes me feel better. And I occasionally have to violate my principles (I still find it necessary to use my legally acquired Excel 2000 package under in my Sun VirtualBox installation, and I continue to use my Palm organizer, in spite of the fact that that is now an HP product- although mine predates the purchase of Palm by HP).

Furthermore, I voluntarily help others adopt OpenSource solutions- including assisting my competitors in the adoption of OpenSource engineering solutions (that is not totally altruistic- the more suppliers offering these services, the bigger the market gets. And occasionally the free support I provide results in a lucrative support contract). i continue to help the visually-impaired with computer accessibility (it seems that when Oracle cut the Orca project, the prime movers have gone independent, and the community is actually getting more active). And I am trying to set up a program at a local technical university to get the latest engineering and scientific solutions in the hands of the next generation, so that they have real opportunity to make a difference in the world...

We owe it to our future generations to keep options open...

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10/06/2010 7:06 PM

Thanks for the overview of current issues. I share your views on Open Source. CS is not my field so I cannot contribute to it, but I do understand the common sense of building on shared resources instead of reinventing the wheel - and charging everyone for doing so. It also makes sense to allow able clients to modify, customize or improve on the product. And to make a product available free to those who can't pay - that is changing the world.

You mention open source engineering software - a list of your favorites would be much appreciated.

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10/06/2010 8:18 PM

The best OpenSource Engineering software package I have found is CAELinux (www.caelinux.com) which includes too many packages to list completely. This package is built on Ubuntu 10.04 and includes everything you would expect from a fresh install of Ubuntu, plus a number of FEA and CFD packages (Salome_MECA being the easiest to work with in my opinion), mathematics (including Scilab and Octave, two different alternatives to Matlab- I have been using Scilab for years, but the newer versions seem to have some growing pains) and other mathematics packages, a variety of dynamic analysis packages, some decent (and not so decent) graphics packages, some SPICE simulation software that I have had a cursory look at (nothing like Multisim, which used to be free in a limited version- great for the novice), etc. Most of the included packages appear to come out of European universities and/or European Government R & D programs. Most have adequate to superb documentation (with some exceptions)...

I normally add to the CAELinux package two of my favorite US-sourced OpenSource packages- BrlCAD, which is a US military solids modeling package (www.brlcad.org) and NIST Dataplot (www.itl.nist.gov/div898/software/dataplot/), a fantastic tool for getting a handle on real world data sets for a variety of applications- with a really, really good reference manual and a variety of test data sets to help get your arms around it (most of my applications for Dataplot involve time series data, which is a pretty small set of what the package can do). QtDMM gives me access to my digital multimeter for recording data (www.mtoussaint.de/qtdmm.html). USBPort here on CR4 just introduced me to Eureqa (http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/60809#newcomments), which promises to be a future favorite of mine, but I need some time to explore it. The demos are fantastic- if it works as well on real world data, it could knock several days off a typical time-series analysis for me...

There are some areas where OpenSource seriously lags commercial space- especially traditional CAD (i.e., shop drawings). DobleCAD XT is an AutoCAD LT clone that is available free, and meets most of my needs, but requires that I drop back in to Windows occasionally (It should work OK in a VirtualBox Windows XP instance, but I haven't set that up yet). And no one has come up with anything that can beat MS Excel 2000- not even Microsoft. That runs well in Wine (a Windows emulator), but the lack of decent usb support in Wine leaves a little to be desired.

I suppose I could go on for days. The best place to start to get a feel for the level of sophistication available in OpenSource for scientific applications is definitely CAELinux. If you don't want to go with the full install, most of the packages can be added independently to a standard Linux box (some require 64 bit), but the nice thing about the CAELinux package is that one does not need to mess with dependencies, etc...

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10/07/2010 5:16 AM

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you are making me think again. I had not realise that there were so many open source products out there for the CAD and similar worlds.

I am just buiding up my Windows capability which I had let sag a little so I am heading for 2 Winows 7 machines 64 bit.

I intended to use MathCad, but will have to upgrade to MatCad 15 to use 64 bit, I had hoped to use TurboCad but am awaiting return emails from IMSI. I am just hoping that the poduct that I have will work in a 64 bit environment and that it will do what I want it to.

Your contributions to this thread are stating to make me think again.

I guess that I will need another 64 bit machine that will run both Windows and Open Source products, through partitions or separate discs. I will have to leave this machine behind for my wife and family.

I have a cousin in Ireland who has made the switch and glories in it!!

Thank you very much for the inspiration.

The only thing that will slow me down is my age!

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10/07/2010 1:12 PM

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CAELinux is 64 bit. Built on Ubuntu 10.04. Are you referring to "MathCAD" or "MatCAD? "MatCAD" is a German CAD program. "MathCAD" is a mathematics suite. If you are looking at "MathCAD", you may find the OpenSource programs Scilab, Octave, or Maxima meet your requirements- all included in the CAELinux project. I have been using Scilab for years (it seems, from monitoring the Scilab mailing list, that the newest version of Scilab might be suffering growing pains- an older version might be preferable right now). Scilab is available for Windows (I used it for years under Windows before making the switch), and I believe the others might be as well. Octave may be more similar to MathCAD than Scilab, but I have limited experience with that package.

Age should be no hindrance- I have watched many more summers slip by than I care to recount. Linux has gotten a whole lot more user-friendly in the last few years, and if you can deal with Windows or Mac OSX, you can deal with Ubuntu. You can also set up CAELinux as dual boot on your Windows machine very, very easily so that you do not have to commit a machine to Linux alone.

The greatest feature of CAELinux is that the package is complete, and runs out of the box- no chasing all over the Internet looking for drivers or missing components...It just works. And you don't have to deal with malware, etc. I spend a whole lot less time on system maintenance than I did back in my Windows days.

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10/18/2010 9:34 PM

Thanks for this thread CW

If it is as easy as you say it is I'm giving it a go. Never mind the learning curve and age in the same formula.

See how many times I'll have to get onto the "dude" to fix things up. Gosh I've done damage to computers and operating systems in my time.

I'll go now and start downloads and see if it helps my course. Looks like something I might just need for the development of an engine part. Not having to pay for it helps me out big time at the moment.

If all goes well it should give me a better understanding of the intricacies involved in the functions of this part. At least that is what I understand this soft ware will achieve if and when it is used appropriately. I shall find out over the next few weeks.

Thanks again for the introduction, Ky.

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10/18/2010 9:40 PM

Have a look at my new blog- it's just the beginning, but I hope to continue by identifying valuable OpenSource resources, along with advantages and disadvantages of such. Check out:

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10/07/2010 9:24 AM

GA and thanks for your input.

The apparent assault on OpenSource is worrying, especially as I am currently working to wean myself off my full time employment and get myself back into the ranks of the self-employed.

The overview you provided is very handy, though, as there's no way I can afford the license fees for the applications I currently use under Windoze.

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10/07/2010 9:36 AM

Open source will never die, as there is no way to squash the efforts of idealogical geeks worldwide. It will ebb and flow however.

Contrasted to your citations of recent commercial encroachments on the freedom of information and innovation is last year's very official endorsement of open source by the Chief Information Officer of the US Department of Defense.

It pays to stay vigilent against those wishing to profit unfairly from the altruistic efforts of others, or who try to stifle the future innovation that comes from open source development efforts. If Oracle plays their cards wrong, they will destroy Java as a (the?) premier cross-platform option. Something else will then rise to take its place.

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10/07/2010 1:15 PM

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10/08/2010 7:21 AM

CW,

have you got a blog on Linux going here somewhere? If not, why not?

There appears to be more than just some interest from us all......a Guru to guide us would be really great!!!

Perhaps a few others could join in if they agree with me please?

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10/08/2010 4:20 PM

Sorry- no blog...didn't think I had much to say that would interest others...

Let me give it some thought.

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10/08/2010 10:09 PM

a series of threads would serve to purpose just as well

sure a blog would offer some advantage in the organization

adding a link to your last thread on the original post, will tie them all together, without any of the hassle of a blog.

I will of course contribute, which ever way you go

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10/18/2010 8:44 PM

OK, Andy, it's your fault- I have started a blog:

http://cr4.globalspec.com/blog/134/OpenSource-Solutions-for-Computer-Aided-Engineering

No, get over there and give me some support, so I can pretend I am not the fool I think I am...

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10/19/2010 7:56 AM

I am so happy. Many thanks.

I sincerely believe it will be of more and more interest to those of us trying to get off the Bill Gates Bandwagon.......I know I am not alone!!

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10/08/2010 7:13 AM

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If I could give you 10 GAs I would!

I totally agree.....

By the way, I worked for a company that Sun took over, a really hostile takeover. They fired all the intelligence and then tried to integrate what had been an insourcing company into theirs, which is an outsourcing company.....results were at best CR*P!!

The result being that they themselves were then ripe for being taken over.....my one consolation is they got the same treatment as they metered out to us......

Sadly, the Sun Outsource program(s) are now in danger......the only part of Sun that I liked....but its really (the then!) Sun's awful management's fault!!!!! Not that that is any help today...

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10/20/2010 3:35 PM

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please how have you kept your Palm PDA working?

I have moved amongst Palm, Palm pilot, Compaq and HP PDAs and still kept one working!

My life was bound up in one of these for many years but have now had to give up this platform, I thought irrecoverably.

I am now seeking an alternate product and I do not see one; if you have any ideas please let me know.

A dead Compaq 3660 is sitting on my Desk at this moment.

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10/20/2010 4:11 PM

Hi Sleepy,

are you looking for a replacement or support for your old hardware?

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10/20/2010 5:36 PM

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either! it is the functionality that I miss!

And the dead critter just sits on my desk and stares back at me.

I suspect that it needs a new battery, at the very least, and I am loath to spend money on something that needs a battery today ( two years or so ago!) and then to find that it needs a new memory chip, and then a new processor, oh and a new screen.... so i think that a new device is the way to go.

But It will have to be a UK chargeable device with replaceable battery. A bit like my shaver should have become.

Any ideas? I suppose that I could buy one of these fancy new smart phones - it has to do Excel by the way - God am I fussy berk!

Thanks.

look forward to your thoughts

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10/20/2010 5:45 PM

If it is a new battery, I suspect you are out of luck- I believe all of these had to go back to the factory for a battery replacement. I have never seen any "do-it-yourself" guide for replacing the battery- but there may be something out there, but maybe not- it is likely they contain batteries in a form factor that can not be easily found on the market. Have you checked the output of your charger? Chargers tend to go bad (especially the cheep Chinese versions that come with most HP products). Finding a replacement plug compatible charger may be even more difficult than finding a battery. Of course, once you open it up, there is a chance that you can fry some of the components with static electricity...

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10/20/2010 5:39 PM

Actually, the Palm devices are still available here in Panama. I am on my second Tungsten E2- the first one failed while still under warranty. This one has lasted for years. I carry it in a metal case- probably why it has lasted so long. The metal case was a Palm accessory. I am not sure what I will do when this one dies- I am very, very dependent on it...I do not use HP or Compaq products (a personal prejudice- has to do with poor product quality), although I have helped a friend with his HP- the Windows Mobile Operating System on that unit was a poor second to the Palm Garnet OS, in my opinion. I don't know about the newer Palm OS, and now that it is all part of HP, maybe there is an opportunity here to introduce a "new" product? I really have no use for a combined PDA/telephone. Once upon a time Apple made a product similar to the Palm, but I don't know if that still exists or not- Apple would probably last longer than these others.

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10/21/2010 4:40 AM

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Be afraid, be very afraid!

Actually, be prepared is the best advice that I can offer, my life was inside mine!

Contacts, ( in various forms) Notes which must be out of date by now, Various useful spreadsheets -it used to carry my gym exercises for example, brought together onto my IT systems when I got home but also retained until the next gym session on the PDA; it used to carry various small databases which were then brought together into a large database on my IT systems. Passwords, very handy, you can go on and on - stuff you cannot or should not put on a phone. In those days if I lost my Phone it did not matter very much! To lose the PDA - disaster. I never actually lost a PDA. I had some of it backed up but not all eg Passwords. I also carried around some part completed works on System Engineering, program ideas, DIY ideas.DIY data, sizes, colours, materials, where I get things from. The list goes on and on - the great thing is that you can have an idea or a solution to an issue and capture it before I fogot what it was all about. I am currently supporting around a dozen notebooks - to try and do some, only, of these things.

The frustration of not having a PDA are immense. BTW - I really did like the Palm products and the Palm Pilot was one of the best - AA batteries! Whoopee!

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