Carbon Auditing

GA

Unless something is forced, we are not going to improve. OP is typical representative, how we will not be ready to sacrifice our comforts, even though our boat is sinking slowly

There might be some Organisation who are looking for it and also working on a broaded and commercial level on this issue..

A. We have been and are continuing to reduce carbon and greenhouse emissions. So we do not need to be FORCED to change our ways.

B. Carbon Tax and Carbon Credits are bogus period. It is to easy for comapanies and wealthy people to manipulate numbers in their favor, while passing to tax on to lower income people.

Governments need to adopt corporate models of doing business and stop jacking up taxes.

One thing in particular is moving all contracts to performance based, eliminating most if not all cost overruns. Want a new fighter? Then bid it, put in a performance bonus clause and end the cost overruns.

@ gsuhas - I believe Usbport was being sarcastic.

Good One!!!!

Is this process implemented some where? As far as India is concern i havnet heard anyone concren about Carbon Units.

Aditya

For Carbon units, we Indians are relatively illiterate. On the other hand USA has pulled the curtain on their eyes, they they very much know about it.

I'm still in the process of researching. Here in the UK it has been talked about academically, main stream thinking in my opinion is along way off. Up and coming countries like China and ye good selves in India is that it would be unfair to set limit as it would certainly stagnate the economy. How is the renewable Industry in India, do you have any literature that might be of interest?

An opportunity for 'green' jobs? Useless government types?

Let the UN handle it - if the UN can't bring the world to a standstill no one can.

The DTQ suggested by Kevin and Richard is certainly a viable way of reducing the carbon emissions of individuals in the UK. There is also ways of implementing and controlling the system making it work. However, my main concerns are:

(a) How will this increase the economic growth of the UK to speed up economic recovery?

(b) How will this create new jobs, decrease unemployment?

(c) If individuals are using less carbon units, how will power company maintain their revenue incomes without raising the cost of energy per carbon unit?

(d) How will this system attract foreign investments into the UK?

(e) While the UK is starving itself in energy use, other developing countries are blooming with advance in manufacturing and construction of better buildings and facilities, is the UK running the risks of letting itself to fall behind the developing countries - how will it help in business developments in the years to come?

IMO, we need to see the real tangible business wins from the EU emissions trading scheme and the CRC Energy Efficiency Scheme working first before we start to attack the carbon emissions at individual levels. Imagine, if the emissions quota scheme does not work for large industries, government departments, universities and large business corporations, there is no hope that an individual quota scheme will work.

Funny, I thought Carbon Dioxide was required to sustain life. It has nothing to do with cutting down the worlds forests. I was also under the impression that we were carbon based life forms. Wouldn't we be exterminating ourselves if we eliminate carbon dioxide in our atmosphere? When we get to that point and are overcome with Oxygen, what shall we do to create more carbon dioxide?

Do you really think or simply parrot what someone else tells you? The post would indicate the parrot plan as there was no thinking involved in the above statement.

What part of the money grab/greed do you not understand in the big Carbon ban plan? Of course cleaner fuel technologies are a good idea, but not all at once and at the cost of living standards for the masses. More developed nations are the only ones capable of instituting this change at present time.

As I said previously (now having to parrot myself to explain to the knee jerk reaction) removing the forests in the massive quantities that we have/are currently is more of a concern to me than the current rate of Carbon output decline.

We are working the problem in our country at (in my opinion) an acceptable pace. We don't need some world order, that has their own problems telling me that I can only have lights on till 8:00pm, etc. or whatever the "Carbon emissions are killing us" clan is professing.

Of course there is a money grab being attempted - did anyone suggest otherwise. I am against one dollar (or Lira) going to an African, small island nation or other for assistance with global warming. It will only take a shortcut into some officials pocket. Similar to the present FIFA thing with awarding the world cup for 2018 & 2022.

Nothing positive if everyone is not on board. China and India insist they can't afford to and have the 'right' to produce whatever pollution they want in order to develop. I am not interested in correcting and supposed historic imbalances, wrongs or others.

Your point about CO2 being required for life is really quite child like. O2 is essential for life and breathing pure O2 is possible but below a couple of meters pure O2 becomes toxic.

CO2 is essential for life but try breathing only CO2 and you will have a better understanding of CO2.

I have yet to hear from any bunch about removing all the CO2 from the atmosphere though out there in fruitcake land I imagine someone has. If not it would be one of the few stupid ideas people have missed.

I have yet to read anyone suggesting you should be required to turn the lights off at 8PM. You seem to have very good connections with those espousing the dumb ideas of the 'CO2 emissions are killing us' clan. To know what they have said that seems to be secret (at least among the intelligent world) is quite something.

I am not talking about you parroting yourself but the stuff you read and hear your buddies at the barbershop or bar talk about.

Your accusation that I have parroted any statement here is false. My conclusions come from lengthy, in depth discussions with a (now retired) 40+ year leading, industry expert in DCU, biofuels and refinery process technology professional.

As far as your technical description for the effect of 02 & CO2 levels toxicity on Carbon based life forms....Thanks. I guess you learn something new every day. I didn't watch sesame street growing up.

Here is a simple equation for you to understand my point about the 'CO2 emissions are killing us' clan:

(Issue + overblown remedy = potential $ grab) = (future problem + fixing new problem caused by overblown remedy (i.e. Swine flue)= More potential $ grab) = Don't address the most important problem (overblown global de-forestation) because they are making too much $ off that grab

You must be a pirate with all the parroting references..... I am parroting myself due to having to restate my point in the initial post for you to understand better. Even my buddies at the barbershop or bar get it better than you.

Just goes to show - never argue with a simple minded person!

Industry expert? I can easily and correctly make the same claim.

Your 'in depth' discussions with one person? Very good and I am sure you can find someone else that agrees - if you look hard enough. How old are you anyway - I can't believe you are an engineer out of a university!

I am outta here - like the first para says.

PS - might try reading up on the definitions of communism and socialism.

At least we agree on something now. "Never argue with a simple minded person."