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Magnetic Flux Concentrator

10/28/2010 2:50 AM

This topic has been discussed many times in different forums. Yet I have not seen any worthwhile result. In some cases I found magnetic lens meant concentrating an electron beam using But here our intention is to focus a magnetic flux. There is no electron beam / magnetic field interaction..

I found from Wilkipedia that industrial lasers are about 5 to 15 % efficient and laser beam size may be about 0.1 mm. Laser power will be about 1Kw to 3 KW depending on material to be cut. Iron requires lower power where as aluminum requires higher power for same metal thickness.

Given that suppose we employ induction cutting using magnetic lens (WISH LIST r TARGET TO BE ACHIEVED) - we need to focus say about 150 w inductive energy- emanating from a ferrite rod with 0.3 T – down to about 0.1 mm.

Energy stored in an inductor is

E= ½ L I^2. Also same as = ½ Al B^2/µi given that µr = 1 for air.

Hence for B = 0.3, one could still reduce Area of cross section A and L= magnetic path length (air gap length)

Have I missed some thing in my specification? I do find practical difficulties of getting high LI^2 over say 0.1 mm dia magnetic area and hence one will need to use magnetic flux concentrators as much as possible. I do not see any difficulty ANY DOUBTS ????

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Re: Magnetic Flux Concentrator

10/28/2010 11:24 AM

I do not see any difficulty

I don't either. I'm thinking you might want to go directly to production with your induction cutting machine -- this is straightforward enough that a prototype is probably unnecessary.

ANY DOUBTS ????

Nope, none at all. It is a simple matter of using flux concentrators "as much as possible"... or perhaps just a bit beyond as much as possible. Remind any doubters that "reality" is highly subjective.

Have I missed something in my specification?

Not that I can see. Perhaps others will point out nit-picky naysayer details, but all you are doing is taking the power of an induction furnace and concentrating it into a very small area. What could be easier? After all, induction welding is already practiced.

I think your specification could be handed off to a manufacturer directly -- let them worry about the details.

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Re: Magnetic Flux Concentrator

10/28/2010 7:57 PM

A LynDoor® Industries Magnetic Funnel might work for this.

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Re: Magnetic Flux Concentrator

10/28/2010 10:55 PM

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Re: Magnetic Flux Concentrator

11/13/2010 11:22 PM

Something of this design scaled up and tweaked for your purposes. Of course, this is a DEmagnetizer. Try these guys. They magnetize their butts off all day. Maybe they can give you a direction to go for the equipment you are looking for. And then there is...

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