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Recycled Oil Wastage Usage

11/27/2010 2:46 AM

We have a plant where we re-cycle used oil taken from cars/bikes/trucks etc. While recycling we only get about 40 - 50 percent of actual recycled oil the rest it wastage. I want to know How we can best utilized that wastages. Can we make some products from it? Or what are the best uses it. I know there is nothing in the world that we cannot utilize the only thing is we have to discover the way of utilizing it.

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11/27/2010 7:54 AM

Separating the impurities further would cost more than what it is worth.

I suppose your question is "how can I legally dispose of the stuff without costing me an arm and a leg ?"

A wild attempt - mix small portions with brick clay and sell the bricks (or give away with hampers) as knife sharpeners.

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11/27/2010 10:43 AM

Is that 40 - 50 percent by weight or by volume? It seems that you are not just collecting waste oil but transmission fluid, brake fluid, and other undesired waste the mechanic throws in.

Depending on the use of the filtered and skimmed, or refined oil, determines the amount of waste (true sludge). I was under the impression that waste oil was processed on the customers order, by what it is to be used for. Oil burners will consume all oils including trans fluids and the like, less waste. For lubricants, refining the oil back to its original condition produces higher waste.

The American Petroleum Institute is your contact. They will help you with information in getting you toward your goal. They may also direct you to a player in the business who is willing to share their process in reducing waste.

The waste oil business is transforming itself into a major eco industry. The rising cost of oil along with new ways to use waste oil is fueling (no pun intended) and driving the industry.

You would be well advised to set your roots firmly, for this business is a solid one going into tomorrow. And we all thank you.

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11/27/2010 11:59 AM

This is definitely off point, but it may be a useful place to piggyback--I'm wondering what kind of problems I'd run into if I recycled my used motor oil (and similar waste oil--transmission fluid, for example) to use as chain saw cutting oil?

Anybody with any experience trying that?

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11/28/2010 12:21 AM

you mean as bar oil? you won't like it much, it doesn't have the tackifiers, so it will sling off like mad

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11/28/2010 6:54 AM

my father and I used wast motor oil for chain saw bar oil for years without many problems.

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11/29/2010 1:47 AM

The oil which you are referencing seems to be of mineral origin. Husqvarna at least reccomends to use a veggie oil instead of mineral oil for chain saw/s so that you would not be able to recycle your burnt mineral oil for the chain saw lubrication system. I would dare say that there are other applications where it could be used the easiest for most is mixing it with bunker fiuel to be burned by ships in their fuel systems or in large industrial furnaces or even small power plants which use bunker fuels. It may also have some uses as a mold release agent to lubricate some forms or molds possibly for exterior concrete forms used to build outdoor facilities as retaining walls- not in applications that need to be plastered (residual oil may create a barrier for good adhesion of plaster)

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11/27/2010 2:20 PM

I would look into using it for road material, mixed with sand. The process of oiling country roads was very popular for a long time, it reduced dust and mud. The oily road sheds rain and gets less potholes. For environmental reasons, it was discontinued. Oil from the roads would seep into the aquifer, polluting the water.

If you can find a way to lock the oil into home made asphalt you will have a good product.

Or you can burn the waste to make bricks, charcoal, or energy. The final waste product from the burning may be good for pavers, cobblestones.

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11/27/2010 3:16 PM

From the user name (peaceandlove) this sounds a little flaky.

Without the OP defining or explaining 'wastage' it is difficult to know what they are talking about.

The final statement of the OP proves my first line.

Sounds like a hippy with a couple of 5 gallon jerry cans.

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11/28/2010 2:15 AM

You don't have to be so condescending,people like you are what we call a non-entity , at least he is doing his bit what have you done lately doos. .

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11/28/2010 3:49 AM

Not sorry bout that at all - if the OP had a bit of detail to it it would be far more interesting for all.

The has to do a bit of work themselves to learn a few basics to even know what problems or opportunities they face are. There are many companies on the net that specialize in just this topic. Maybe someone from there would help. Once the OP mentions the location it tells more about their ability to see one of the existing units - not much.

Whether you like my comment or not should I care? The answer is an emphatic no.

This is like the fellow with the toilet flush question -

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11/27/2010 10:32 PM

Use it to heat your garage, or give it to one of the mechanix you know that uses it to heat his garage. Most mechanics I know all have waste oil heaters for this purpose.

I drop off all of mine to a guy down the street. Yes, some gets to the atmosphere, there are many filters that catch most nasties. Some do escape. What else can we do? We can only do the best we can with current technology.

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11/28/2010 2:02 AM

Thanks rcf-jr for your very nice reply. It by volume we calculate it in litters. Actually , the quality of waste motor oil we get is not good , and you are right it contain mixture of every type of oil from motory bikes to trucks , and every kind of oil from brake oil to recyled oil , even it contian water . That why we got lot of wastage. I am not from USA and from Pakistan and there the mechanics and oil collector are mostly illeteral so they did not handle the oil properly and mix every thing with each other. russ123 By wastage i mean we got mixture of black oil taken out from motor/bikes etc even impurities , we recyled it and obvisly we cannot get 100% out put and there left a sludge/waste , currently we just sale it for a very low cost or just burn it. So, i came on this forum to know can we utilize it some other way in best way to get more benefits , some suggestion i got is to make some brick and road material , i will do more research on it. I also want to know in USA/Europte etc they must also recycling the oil taken from motors/bikes etc , and surely they got wastage too , so how are they utilizing wastage.

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11/28/2010 7:26 AM

Im sure im not the only person that is curious as to what quality the 40% recycled oil is is like ,and what is it used for? Also the OP has not mentioned what quantity he deals with, it might give a bit of help with making more recommendations as to what to do with the by product , One idea that crossed my mind was to spin this waste in a giant centrifuge to remove water+ other lighter elements,then sell the end product for anti climb anti walk paste to put on walls and roofs to prevent burglars and vandals from illegal entry.I would imagine the product would be like black chewing gum and unlikely to be washed off by the weather .

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11/28/2010 8:38 AM

You may find the answer to your issues here at http://www.globalresourcecorp.com/I have followed this company for may years even had some of their stock at one time. They seem to be moving very slowly but steady in using micro wave to reclaim oil from any thing made from oil including old oil.

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11/28/2010 3:06 PM

An alternative- mix it wit 50% fuel oil and feed it to a diesel generator. The used oil will cut the cost enough to make the generation economically attractive and the engine's catalytic converter will generally clean up the exhaust adequately.

For added value, use the coolant water and a heat-reclaim wrapped muffler to reclaim about 60% of the waste heat (the coolant will be about 90-95C) for beneficial use when you can, making it a rudimentary Co-Generation system- helping to clean up the environment (lower CO2 emissions and reduced NOx compared to "normal" coal-fired generation and any form of thermal input). You might even get some form of government subsidy for installing and running it.

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11/29/2010 12:02 PM

not a good idea to mix and use in diesel gen set, as the fuel is also the fuel pump lubricant you could end up destroying the pump, also the filters will clog up the injectors may be damaged and unburnt fuel will cling to the cylinder's and pistons.

exhaust gases may also block or clog the silencer.

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11/28/2010 7:54 PM

We have a Ok state paint recycling drop off place.

I wonder if they are considering building man-made mountains with over sized Landfills unrecycled material,if they allow a new Mountain range to be built out of the stuff people cant remove, that is coal ash ,volcanic ash,lead slag. all of these items would be 'less airborne' mixed with useless oil waste.and put into a Gypsum or drywall waste filled Crator as the mountain requires an inner core of heavy filling.

and after it reaches snow height it could be covered over with topsoil and pines.

Also side caves could be pre-formed on it for an air cooling effect to cut down on desert heat.

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11/28/2010 9:16 PM

Do NOT run a 50% mix in a diesel engine as someone suggested. If you do mix waste oil with diesel fuel, filter and dewater it down to 5 microns first, then, add no more than 5% to your diesel fuel. Some engines and injector pumps can handle a higher mix, but unless you are familiar with the different diesel engine and fuel systems, 5% mix is as high as you should go. Also, beware, synthetic oils have different burning characteristics than petrol oils

If you are burning the waste oil/sludge, use a burner like a "turk" burner, or a "babbington burner" . They run hot enough to eliminate most of the toxins. Burning used oil properly, the next door neighbor should only see heatwaves rising from your smokestack, NO smoke should be visible.

You could also soak it up with sawdust, and at the right content should not smoke much if burned in a sawdust burner or stove. . You will probably need a burner with an auxillary air input to the burn chamber though, to get a clean burn.

In the US, many places accept used oil, but they dont pay you for it. Clean, dewatered, filtered waste oil can be used in a commercial, ie, expensive, waste oil burner for heat and heating water. The turk and babbington burners do the same thing, but cost less than $100 to build. Mother earth magazine also has waste oil burner plans available online.

A friend of mine coats his lumber trailer floors with used oil, to help weatherproof the wood, and make loads slide out easier.

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11/28/2010 9:36 PM

I will concede to someone with apparently more experience.

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11/28/2010 10:15 PM

The Biodiesel guys will mix used motor oil with the vegetable oil before processing to raise the cloud point. The ratio around 5-10%

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11/28/2010 11:54 PM

Some great waste oil threads here, but the op is talking about the funky stuff left after the good stuff has been filtered out. It's still oily, but probably gooey by now.

I had a friend in the asphalt business, he would use waste oil or such to oil his truck bed so the asphalt wouldn't stick to it.

I'm looking for a way to control rust on the underside of my old truck, but this stuff is probably too stiff to spray, would have to brush it on. If it's sticky enough, it may stay on and control rust, like undercoating.

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11/29/2010 9:38 AM

http://somerville.patch.com/articles/mikes-auto-offers-areas-first-green-oil-changes

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12/02/2010 6:02 AM

There is a company near my home recycling oil, acids and lots of other liquids successfully for many years. Their homepage is in German and French only. But you could easily communicate by e-mail. www.altola.ch

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