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01/05/2011 2:22 PM

Hello all, I have been searching for days on Google and other related search websites for information regarding a natural gas consumption for a typical house in the U.S. northeast. I am looking for year-round consumption of individual appliances in an average sized home. I am writing a report and I could really use your help if you have come across any such studies conducted by government entities, private companies or even perhaps your own organization. The information will be used only for academic purposes. Regards, MT

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01/05/2011 2:44 PM

Have you contacted your local utility company?

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01/05/2011 3:07 PM

What about looking at the gas bills over a period of time?

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01/05/2011 3:22 PM

Go to NOAA Climate Prediction Center, Degree Days Statistics. You will find the information there for your town or area. Your can then determine the average usage in therms from that data.

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01/05/2011 3:45 PM

I actually have the actual usage data. I wanted a break down of the individual appliance usage on a per hour basis. I believe this information can only be gathered on case study house.

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01/05/2011 4:33 PM

This sounds more like manufacturers data for stove, furnace, water heater...

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01/05/2011 5:02 PM

I don't believe you have spent days on this, here's my last nugget, now do your own homework!

http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/gas.html

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01/05/2011 5:10 PM

kramarRat: I really have spent days on this. I have been in touch with the DOE and EIA and all they collect is what you have provided. What I am looking for is energy breakdown on a per hour at best or on a daily basis at worst. If you can lead me to a good source, I would greatly appreciate it.

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01/05/2011 5:34 PM

I'm looking at energy use per hour on the last link I gave you, with different appliances, and total cost to operate. I guess I'm out of ideas. Sorry.

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01/05/2011 6:28 PM

I was going to point you to the EIA (as they have a wealth of information in this area) but it appears you have already looked there.

In the OP: I am looking for year-round consumption of individual appliances in an average sized home.

Check out "Table 1 Natural Gas Consumption and Expenditures in US Households by End Uses and Census Region, 2001" from the EIA "2001 Residential Energy Consumption Survey" This breaksdown consumption into space heating, water heating, and appliances on a per household basis.

But above you state...What I am looking for is energy breakdown on a per hour at best or on a daily basis at worst.

I don't think you're going to find hourly data (as there is too much variation). The best you can hope for is to find average usage and extrapolate to an average hour.

The only other useful info I can pass along is what someone already mentioned. Your local utility can provide information about peak usage numbers (for a household, not an appliance). I recently did a natural gas study and between the EIA and my local utility they had all the info I needed in regards to estimating average and peak demands.

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01/07/2011 4:26 PM

GA

And the gas companies can provide pipeline flow numbers - if given a good reason.

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01/07/2011 3:44 PM

Maybe if you gave us a paragraph from your report, we'd have a better idea of what you need.

For example, if a paragraph starts:

"The furnace in an "average northeast home" 1 consumes X therms of natural gas per hour, when it is operating.... "

then, we'd say that such data is very easily available, and that you will need to do your own work.

For example you can easily find the efficiency of a typical furnace. The furnace is rated in BTU's, which specifies its output, but also implicitly specifies its input, because you know the efficiency (or can find it in a minute or two on the web). Because you are speaking in glittering generalities, you can simply assume that a modern high efficiency furnace is 95% efficient. So the output in BTUs is 95% of the input in BTU equivalent fuel.

For a stove, you can easily calculate how much gas is required for cooking breakfast, lunch, and dinner. You can also easily calculate how much gas is used per burner if the burner is turned up to full output. You can calculate how much energy is used to heat three quarts of water. Etc. All this stuff is very easy to do and requires nothing beyond third grade math.

So give us a paragraph with missing data, and then we can describe the process for finding and calculating the info you need. We can't do your homework for you, however.

1 Your footnote would explain what you mean by "an average northeast home".

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01/05/2011 7:27 PM

Ya I know the feeling well yoi use your instincts and search and search and nuthin absolutely nuthin comes of because your looking in the wrong place; so much for instincts they just aren't adequate at times.

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01/06/2011 10:37 AM

Its been a long time since I've needed that data but I seem to remember there are references, probably in some HVAC reference publications, that provide that info under BTU days/per year and/or per month for given areas.

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01/07/2011 3:08 PM

Are you looking for information of natural gas appliances other than a furnace, a water heater, a stove, and a dryer?

If you look around a Home Depot, etc, you can read the energy efficiency stickers on all these appliances.

I wonder if I am interpreting your question correctly. These stickers are almost impossible to miss, even if you wanted to.

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