Salt Water Fuel Revisited

Doesn't look feasible at the moment. A lot like Brown's gas. Here's a link.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-efficiency/alternative-fuels/salt-water-fuel.htm

"very little energy is needed to maintain flywheel speed."

Yes, but to this point you have only added energy to the flywheel. You have managed to spin it up to some level, but it has done NO WORK.

Do you have any idea how much energy the flywheel can produce??

What is "frequency ignition of salt water"? (Maybe I shouldn't have dared to ask....)

Flywheels can store energy for a short while, but only so much as is put into them in the first place; and you never get 100% back out. There is no particular analogy with fire-on-demand steam.

It doesn't matter how many people or how many times they flunk out of thermodynamics class, this is a dead idea.)

very little energy is needed to maintain flywheel speed

That depends on how much load you put on the flywheel. As soon as you try to extract energy from the flywheel it will lose speed; the more energy you extract the greater the loss in speed.

It sure is hard to get something from nothing. An uneducated person might think it's almost impossible.

Sigh

Have you at all considered that the reason that many expert research labs have said that you cannot make energy by igniting sea water is that they are correct. Now here's an additional surprise for you, the research labs also have theories based on real data from real experiments that explain why sea water cannot be ignited for energy so they will be able to predict which chemicals will ignite.

Energy can be stored in different forms. The one in thermal form is considered as low grade energy as the degree of extraction is not that gr8 as compare to the electrical form stored in an electrical battery. When in thermal form many thermodynamic laws are applicable, so certainly a system can not increase the overall energy but can only change the form of energy.

HHO believers will probably love the linked article.

This is the simple disassociation of a (conductive) salt water solution into 2H₂+O₂ using the ENERGY from an electrical source or an RFG (Radio Frequency Generator). The gases are then recombined by combustion into H₂O. An oxyhydrogen flame is nothing new.

The simple fact that MORE energy is used to disassociate the water than is returned by burning the resulting gases will always make this process a very POOR form of ENERGY STORAGE. It is NOT a source of energy.

Again, NO energy is being created here. The energy from the RFG is simply being converted into heat & light. Anyone with a basic high school education can calculate energy_out/energy_in to determine that this process does NOT provide any net energy. Any competent experimenter can replicate this process and MEASURE results that will confirm the calculations.

Suppose you build a generator powered both by wind, wave action and sunlight to supply the energy to seperate the O and H2 which is then burned to create steam to drive a larger generator and set it out in an area of the oceans that is continuously sunny and windy?

Here you are making up the negative difference in input energy needed to split the components by tapping into an already existing free source of energy to gain access to an unlimited dependable source.