Operating Systems

It may not be the operating system that's the issue or the only issue. It may be that they were developed in a 32-bit environment, and yours is a 64-bit machine.

Did you say they wouldn't install? Or did they just not run once they were installed?

can be installed but won't run due software installation is not complete. think there is a windowsXP that runs on a 64bit machine, but my problem is, haven't find drivers for the asus A42J laptop for windowsXp. the cd driver supplied is for windows7 only. any advice? thanks

which version of Win7?

the pro version has compatibility mode for just such situations

you can also install http://www.virtualbox.org/

I think Mikerho is correct! But you can check for free with Windows XP mode see http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/features/windows-xp-mode.aspx

you can set many os in you hard drive. create a multiple-boot system

http://www.zbmsoft.com/

7 doesn't play well in a multi boot environment & will jack up the other operating systems.

using a external hard drive seems to be a bit safer

This is exactly why I consider moving to a newer version of Windows a "downgrade" instead of an upgrade. It has been the situation with every new version of Windows at least since XP. I still run Windows 98SE (in VirtualBox) specifically due to legacy applications that don't play well on newer versions...

As has been pointed out by others, if you do not have the Pro version with the built-in XP emulator, or if you can not upgrade to this version, your least painful solution would be to run XP and your legacy software in a virtual machine, like VirtualBox or VMWare. You most likely will have to purchase a new license for the XP installation in the virtual machine- Microsoft does not like to transfer licenses even though you no longer run the originally-licensed software on the machine for which it was licensed...

I was told exactly the same thing. VirtualBox by the computer experts who happen to be my friends. The pro version of 7 is super expensive so I have seen many printers, etc thrown out shortly after the Christmas shopping binge. Guess they didn't work anymore with 7.

I asked and got the bad news about software too and just decided to try keep the old xp hog till it breaks. XP has been on the net just once in 4 years and the update avalanche nearly broke the computer. I had to "go Back" to before the update.

It has been protected by my having linux on the web all this time.

I use linux for everthing except videos for the internet. Sometimes government have a sale and you can get old computers pretty cheap. Maybe that can be the xp option?

I had XP on a separate hard drive for a year or so

that won't do the OP any good, since he's on a laptop

there may be a solution specific to win7 settings coming in the morning [whatever that means]

I've been using a VB for a couple of months. Ubuntu 10.10 [32bit] host, WinXp [sp3 current updates, avg security]. works great on a modern dual core laptop, kinda slow on a 2.2ghz pentium4.

much better than a dual boot, cause well, I don't have to wait for xp to boot up with a VB

Shutting down to a saved state means, I can have XP running in about 15 seconds or less

it's never a good idea to put a windows box online that isn't current & running security

Had same problem and found solution with help from 2 others. I have it at my office, will post tomorrow. It's really the security in w7 and they did leave easy fix this time as opposed to service packs in xp.

Had same problem and found solution with help from 2 others. I have it at my office, will post tomorrow. It's really the security in w7 and they did leave easy fix this time as opposed to service packs in xp.

Thanks a lot CONWAYMECH.

Hi Valski, when you insert the disk do not use the auto run function, instead use explorer to view the drive, right click on the software and open properties, the look for "Run As" this will give you options to run the software in several different operating system modes, (I think that the run as is in the compatibility section) apply the mode that you want to use then open the folder and select auto run.

This should make it work.

Cheers

Joe

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/default.aspx

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-

pc/default.aspx

Thats great, but how much extra does it cost? I assumed backward compatibility with hardware and software that works just fine. You really shouldn't have to throw out a perfectly good scanner or printer just because you got a new computer.

Really microsoft should have to pay you if your hardware stops working.

You really shouldn't have to throw out a perfectly good scanner or printer just because you got a new computer.

If only....our desktop pc ran on Win 98SE. Then wifey dear goes out with her friend and gets a new pc which runs on Win XP (now in service pack 3). Hey guess what? The new machine doesn't digitally recognise printers (2 off) and a scanner, which were fine for the old pc and its operating system. The big bitch about all this is I just wanted a new monitor, not new equipment costing 2 grand!

Based on information from the referenced site, one can download the XP mode software for free. Not being a Windows user, I haven't tried it, but it appears that maybe Microsoft might finally be realizing the errors of their ways...

Is not O/S responsibility nor are they capable to produce the patch, it's device manufacturer you need direct your ire @

So why do my legacy software programs and old equipment (and associated drivers) work with other operating systems, even after a major upgrade?

Because the manu of the software configured the drivers to work in the environemnt you've chosen

Buy a Mac either new or second hand (some real good ones second hand on eBay).. set up boot camp on the Mac and install WinXP pro.. (the FULL version, NOT an OEM copy) works a dream.

I've done it to my MacBook Pro for for the same reasons you have.

You need to download the VM Virtual Machine from windows7 site

It then runs 32bit software in a virtual XP machine on your win7 platform

I think it runs on all versions.. simples..

I have the same problem with my Toshiba laptop with the microsoft 7 program installed, I tried to upload a Nikon photo program but it wouldn't work, I also have a problem with downloading a whole host of other problems?

Xanasax

send a PM and we'll work it out then we can post the results to the forum

Go to the control panel, user account control, turn it off and user account control. I could not copy and paste my license in the program files as I normally did and ASI could not open my .dat file. I had to send them my serial number and let them insert the license. Seems like a stupid item but it caught me. I refuse to give in and downgrade to xp because at some point that option will no longer be available.

Hi,

Have a technician install a "Virtual Windows XP" on your computer and install all your old programs there. You will then be able to open them anytime, while working normally with Windows 7.

Hope it helps,

Ramon

I have not resd every post, but it seems that there are a lot of people with problems with Win7.

Even after having many, many issues with '95, '98, and XP3 (I didn't even try Vista on account of all the negative reviews), I find that Win7 is a good operating system, at least for me.

About a year ago, I decided to build a 64-bit system. I researched and selected the required parts, (including a 2-core Athlon processor); not expensive ones, and even on the cheaper side. I purchased the OEM Win7 Pro for about $130 and installed it.

My 64-bit system runs all over my old XP one. Other than having to track down printer drivers, I have not had one problem with older peripherals.

I also have not had to use the compatibility mode for any of the software that I have loaded on it, including Office 2000, CorelDraw7, except VB5 for a graphics problem which I was able to fix by setting compatibility to Win 2000.

I still don't trust MS, and I will never be impressed by their support, but from my experience, Win7 is a good OS. You just gotta know how to work it.

Mistrust, even with good reason, can keep us from something good.

Mike

Vista was made for me and I like it, Win7 is nearly identical to Vista anyway all the drivers etc are the same

I have come across a White Paper from Dell Computers that may be of interest to those following this discussion:

"Addressing Windows 7 Application Compatibility"

Download here. May require registration.

From the document: "To learn more about how Dell can help you plan and execute a Windows 7 migration, visit www.migrationexpertzone.com."

the problem is that it's 64 bit...

Don't listen to anyone who says a virtual machine will fix it because they're just hacks who couldn't figure it out and went with a work around.

Get win7 32 bit Pro on a 32 bit laptop, and try again.

technet will provide as well as ebay if you have the money, and at a guess, with the industrial software you're trying to use, you have it.

I guess you need to define what you mean by fix it

personally my idea of a solution is an operating system that works & doesn't hold me hostage, harvesting more & more of my money...

On my system, 32 bit software runs just as well as 64 bit software. On my system, weekly updates don't break formerly working software. On my system, I run legacy software left over from the 1990's that still functions as I want it to function, while allowing me to take advantage of the phenomenal speed increases resulting from the use of 64 bit software where appropriate, and taking advantage of multicore processors. On my system, I can use my computer the way I want to use it, not the way some hack in Redmond THINKS I want to use it...

Some of my older software, written for Windows 98, won't run on Windows XP, let alone Windows 7. It runs on my system. It took me a while to "figure it out", but it works, and in some cases, it works better than the "new and improved", excessively expensive options...

What's the rub with 64bit? I have five 64bit computers w/o a hitch, and VM isn't a work around it's the established method and works very efficiently for XP and most win98 programing

Look I have this problem, when ever I upgrade my computer, I will say this only once.

Insert the disk into your computer locate the drive using a programme like explorer, right clik the mouse and open properties, then look for a run as mode. Select the operating system you want the software to run in, then exit it and run the software.

I have software that is now over 10 years old operating on windows 7, I dont like to Operating System but I have to live with it.

I have never had a problem with running anything that will run onanything from windows 98 up.

Joe

thank you guys for your interests in this issue. what i did was to download from microsoft virtual pc, installed the xp o.s, and run my laptop on xp mode and it works. i can now have the comfort of using this 64bit computer using my industrial software running on xp.

its quite sort of interesting that there's a lot of good opinion posted and lucky for me to have you guys the help i need.

thank you all and much appreciated

Thanks for acknowledging

so bwire's post with just this link http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/default.aspx was the answer?

If so give him another GA vote so everyone will know what worked, this is an important question

Yeah, if people could check it out and it works for personal windows 7 too, then it is definitely a super good answer.

I asked about keeping some of my xp software when I bought a new computer and they (salespeople) were saying, I must buy professional to do so. (And that is 150 or 200 dollars more than personal windows 7. (This is the fog of commerce, I hope!)

Note: Always buy the Pro level product with getting a new O/S so you don't miss out on something later on..................... http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/support/faq.aspx

precisely yes. go to this link and download the microsoft virtual pc, and you get the answers you need. i run my windows 7 64 bit pc on a dual mode, win7 and xp mode allocating some space for the virtual xp mode and thats it guys, i work.

Hi, Valski

I've replace my computer destop cpu running windows7 64bit. and i've face the same problem, but what i did is i've downgrade the O.S to windows xp and it work fine, my old software can run and no error.

software develop in 32bit wont run in W7 64 bit.

Regard's