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Exact Derating Factor

04/19/2011 5:08 AM

What is the exact derating factor to be considered for selecting the rating of a breaker for a capacitor in an APFC Panel?

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Re: Exact Derating Factor

04/19/2011 6:47 AM

Why to de-rate in the first place?

The only thing to check is the inrush current of the last capacitor in a bank with all other capacitors already ON and check whether the making capacity of the breaker is more than this worst case scenario inrush current.

Also, to be checked is the setting (both current as well as time) in the Instantaneous and/or Short Time Releases of the breaker. And, ensuer that the release wouldn't trip for a switching inrush.

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Re: Exact Derating Factor

04/19/2011 8:00 AM

The word "exact" is fishy.

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Re: Exact Derating Factor

04/19/2011 8:51 AM

In addition to the good points by ee65, may i add:

1. Thermal derating factor of 1.43 as explained by AEG here..

2. Circuit breakers should be used for protection only. Capacitor switching should be done by contactors specially designed for this purpose. If CB is used for switching on and off, its life will be over very soon. Contactors have a life of millions of operations while CBs have a life in thousands only.

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Re: Exact Derating Factor

04/19/2011 1:53 PM

NEC requires the breaker to be 135% of the capacitor amperage.

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Re: Exact Derating Factor

04/19/2011 3:17 PM

What about looking in British Standard 7671?

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