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Equipment and Procedure for Breather Valve Calibration

05/10/2011 12:52 AM

hello every body

as you know breather valves instaled on storage tanks for tanks breathing in emptying and filling and temperature diferential during day.we experienced a failer in one of our storage tanks because of breather vave choking.the mentioned tank sucked and there are big dents on the body.now the question is ,is there any equipement or procedure to testing and calibrating breather valve.any information in this regard will be appreciated

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Re: equipment and procedure for breather valve calibration

05/10/2011 1:22 AM

Periodic inspection might help. I'm thinking of porous material in the valve passages that might over time become clogged with dust, debris, or condensed fluid vapors from the tank. The debris might include bird or insect nests.

If this is not the problem, then the breather may be undersized for the maximum inflows/outflows that could occur.

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Re: equipment and procedure for breather valve calibration

05/10/2011 2:07 AM

I would consult the manufacturer's breather valve test and calibration procedure.

Or, look at them occasionaly.

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Re: Equipment and Procedure for Breather Valve Calibration

05/10/2011 5:27 PM

Along with than the great advice from Tornado and lyn I have to ask, are you using the proper pressure/vacuum relief valve for the product being stored?

Example: Gasoline, #6 Oil, AC20, Coal Tar?

As I remember it, there are specific valves for specific products as far as cold or heated products. With heated product the light ends do tend to settle in the workings of the valve and once the tank is empty and is cooled, the valves stick.

On our AC (asphalt cement) and Coal Tar tanks which ranged from 4000 Gals. to 1.5M/Gals. we would disassemble the head and soak the parts in diesel fuel for 24 hours once every six - 12 months.

Our procedure was was to check air flow at the valve during a transfer (had to go to the top of the tank to get a gauge before/during/after every transfer anyway).

Other than periodic soaking we never had a problem or a need for testing or calibration.

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Re: Equipment and Procedure for Breather Valve Calibration

05/11/2011 2:13 AM

You have to calculate the flow, take a BIG safety factor, then calculate CV (get help from the manufacturer).

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Re: Equipment and Procedure for Breather Valve Calibration

05/12/2011 3:46 AM

hi,

i m basha from yaarab mechanical services, normally breather needs periodical cleaning and replacement. you must have inspection check sheet for storage tanks on regular basis.whenever breather found chock or dirt replace it. otherwise you can use one more breather, make two branches from the breather port by using "T" and make two vertical lines with breather. i hope with this arrangement we can increase the breather efficiency.

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Re: Equipment and Procedure for Breather Valve Calibration

05/14/2011 3:40 AM

Breather valves installed on storage tanks are to be treated on par with safety valves. The most common practice is to check and calibrate it once in a year. In case of dusty and saline atmosphere frequency could be more.

"equipment or procedure to testing and calibrating breather valve"

It require a set-up similar to safety valve test jig. The only two differences are (1) pressure gauges are to be replaced with vacuum gauges or manometers (2) Tapping for connecting compressed air or nitrogen is to be connected with vacuum pump. Breather valve is to be taken out from tank (isolate the opening by putting a dummy or replace with a spare breather valve).

Clean the breather valves and connect its upstream side to the test jig as it is done for safety valve. Now start vacuum pump and read the vacuum level at vacuum gauges or manometers until breather opens. Record the maximum vacuum level at the time of breathing. Compare it with the norm. If not as per norm, repair it.

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05/16/2011 4:44 AM

thanks its very helpful

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Re: Equipment and Procedure for Breather Valve Calibration

05/16/2011 11:42 AM

Ensure that the breather valve is located higher than the maximum fluid level. Periodic cleaning and inspection as mentioned. Does the fluid you are dealing with foam? If so, a possible factor. Is there adequate slope from the valve to ensure drainage away from the valve. Perhaps a tee and another valve at a higher level for a backup. The other fellows have covered it.

Hope this helps.

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