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Seamless and Welded Pipe

05/20/2011 4:47 AM

Seamless pipe is more strength than welded pipe providing its same material?

I am not sure that why there are two kinds of pipes like seamless and welded. Also, does someone tell me what is different characteristics such as physical and chemical characteristics between seamless and welded pipes ?

Additionally, seamless pipe shall be applied for pressure part and it is not necessary welded pipe shall be applied for pressure part ? that means welded pipe can not be used for pressure remaining part?

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Re: Seamless and welded pipe

05/20/2011 5:35 AM

It's irrelevant. Pipe is rated according to various schedules. Simply select the required pipe from the tables in the schedules.

Who in their right mind would pressurise a pipe to its ultimate tensile limit, whatever the theoretical strength <rhetorical question>?

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Re: Seamless and Welded Pipe

05/20/2011 9:27 AM

Is there a specific question about an application here, or do you just want someone to give you a free lesson on the different types of pipe?

I'd go to some pipe supplier web site and get the basics. Then if you have a real question about a real application someone may, or may not, help you.

I HIGHLY recommend that you go to wikipedia with your questions first. Then you might be able to ask an intelligent question.

Pipe (fluid conveyance) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Re: Seamless and Welded Pipe

05/20/2011 12:09 PM

TGIF!

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Re: Seamless and Welded Pipe

05/20/2011 1:16 PM

By "seamless" pipe, do you really mean "tube"? Either can be used to transport fluids, but tubes are also used in structural applications, like for support columns or roll bars. Welded pipe would not be used for structural applications.

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Re: Seamless and Welded Pipe

05/20/2011 4:20 PM

Welded pipe is less expensive to manufacture and needs less rigorous testing. It can be used in low pressure systems such as potable water or fire sprinkler systems. Seamless pipe is used for systems where pressure will be above a given pressure, such as 175 psi in some industries. Seamless pipe will work in very high pressure systems (over 1000 psi), but wall schedule will increase (schedule 80 v/s schedule 10). In ANY situation, your pipe type (ASTM rating) and wall thickness schedule MUST come from a code book where many thousands of hours of testing has taken place to determine the requirements.

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Re: Seamless and Welded Pipe

05/21/2011 8:19 AM

Simply put:

Seamless pipes are used where the pressure of the fluid is high and critical. Anything above 70 psi and especially if the fluid is critical and dangerous in case of bursting (Steam, Gases etc). This is because the uniformity of the pipe tolerance is better guaranteed.

Welded pipes are used where the fluid is not critically rated and the pressure is much less than the maximum rated by the manufacturer.

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Re: Seamless and Welded Pipe

05/21/2011 10:13 AM

seamless pipes are more strong because they have similar composition through it's length...

but welded pipes are not in that case.. it is difficult to produce 100% defect free weld.. so minor defect today will be major in future...

there are 2 types of pipes because it depend on the need, application and productivity....

seamless pipes cannot be produced easily. welded pipe may be produced of less cost...

physical and chemical properties of welded pipe is different in parent metal and weldment....it depends on electrode and base material used....

welded pipes are also used in pressure parts like drum,coils provided the welding is carried out according to standards and code.......

and i need some more details to give a clear idea......

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Re: Seamless and Welded Pipe

05/23/2011 8:23 AM

There is little if any difference in chemical resistance between seamless and welded pipe made from the same material. For example, welded carbon steel pipe has the same chemicl resistance as seamless carbon steel pipe.....assuming the weld material is also carbon steel (and it should be).

As you have read in other replies, seamess pipe is stronger than welded pipe but quite a bit more expensive, especially in larger diameters. It's used when design constraints (usually pressure and safety requirements) justify the extra expense.

Choice of material (carbon steel vs. alloy vs. stainless steel, etc) is governed by the service conditions, not seamless vs. welded.

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Re: Seamless and Welded Pipe

05/23/2011 8:43 AM

Am I missing something in ASME B31.3? I've seen a few responses saying that welded pipe is for low pressure systems.

You need a thicker wall for welded pipe vs. seamless but that doesn't mean only low pressure.

Welded pipe is cheaper than seamless but you add one more spot for failure with welded pipe. Some forms of corrosion occur at welds.

What's your service conditions (fluid, temperature, pressure, etc.)? Maybe we can give some recommendations.

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