Previous in Forum: NPN vs PNP   Next in Forum: Wireless Remote for Forward Reverse Starter
Close
Close
Close
14 comments
Rate Comments: Nested
Member

Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 8

Stall Time Of Motors

05/27/2011 11:56 PM

how much is the stall time or locked rotor withstand time (LRWT) for motor?

Register to Reply
Interested in this topic? By joining CR4 you can "subscribe" to
this discussion and receive notification when new comments are added.

Good Answers:

These comments received enough positive votes to make them "good answers".
Guru
Technical Fields - Technical Writing - New Member Engineering Fields - Piping Design Engineering - New Member

Join Date: May 2009
Location: Richland, WA, USA
Posts: 21017
Good Answers: 795
#1

Re: stall time of motors

05/28/2011 1:20 AM

It probably depends on the specific manufacturer's data. (There would be as many formulas as design variations, but no one-size-fits-all calculation.)

__________________
In vino veritas; in cervisia carmen; in aqua E. coli.
Register to Reply
Power-User
Engineering Fields - Mechanical Engineering - New Member Engineering Fields - Electrical Engineering - New Member Engineering Fields - Construction Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: BH, Vietnam
Posts: 435
Good Answers: 1
#2

Re: stall time of motors

05/28/2011 4:10 AM

LRWT is the time in seconds that the motor can withstand stalled current without damage.

Depends on its state (hot or cold), we can assume that stall time could be 10 to 15 seconds.

__________________
Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong
Register to Reply
Guru
United Kingdom - Member - New Member

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Resting under the Major Oak
Posts: 4347
Good Answers: 181
#3
In reply to #2

Re: stall time of motors

05/28/2011 7:03 AM

I think at 5 seconds a motors got problems if it hasn't started turning.

Some motors will withstand far longer, crane motors for example, but they are built like tanks!

__________________
The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.
Register to Reply
Power-User
Engineering Fields - Mechanical Engineering - New Member Engineering Fields - Electrical Engineering - New Member Engineering Fields - Construction Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: BH, Vietnam
Posts: 435
Good Answers: 1
#8
In reply to #3

Re: stall time of motors

05/28/2011 11:17 AM

US motors normally are built like tanks. If in dout, you can ask our every US mates.

__________________
Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong
Register to Reply
Power-User
Engineering Fields - Mechanical Engineering - New Member Engineering Fields - Electrical Engineering - New Member Engineering Fields - Construction Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: BH, Vietnam
Posts: 435
Good Answers: 1
#13
In reply to #3

Re: stall time of motors

05/30/2011 11:58 AM

Again, it would depend on the type of motor and the method of starting. You will see the motor for clinker grinder start very slow as if it is stalling.

__________________
Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Houston, USA
Posts: 946
Good Answers: 244
#4

Re: Stall Time Of Motors

05/28/2011 10:24 AM

See this thread. You will find lot of good information there in this regard.

http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/67824/Locked-Rotor-Withstand-Time-LRWT

- MS

__________________
"All my technical advices in this forum must be consulted with and approved by a local registered professional engineer before implementation" - Mohammed Samad (Linkedin Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/msamad)
Register to Reply
Power-User
Engineering Fields - Mechanical Engineering - New Member Engineering Fields - Electrical Engineering - New Member Engineering Fields - Construction Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: BH, Vietnam
Posts: 435
Good Answers: 1
#5
In reply to #4

Re: Stall Time Of Motors

05/28/2011 10:37 AM

Haha, I know you will surely come back... with a link. msamad. Yeah, I have gone through it my mate. Is that exactly NEMA request the stall time should be that much?

__________________
Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Houston, USA
Posts: 946
Good Answers: 244
#6
In reply to #5

Re: Stall Time Of Motors

05/28/2011 11:05 AM

Can anyone argue that it is not mentioned in NEMA MG 1, section 12.49? It is exactly what NEMA requires and those who are familiar with NEMA MG 1 know well about it. I am in doubt your mate have ever read it.

- MS

__________________
"All my technical advices in this forum must be consulted with and approved by a local registered professional engineer before implementation" - Mohammed Samad (Linkedin Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/msamad)
Register to Reply
Power-User
Engineering Fields - Mechanical Engineering - New Member Engineering Fields - Electrical Engineering - New Member Engineering Fields - Construction Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: BH, Vietnam
Posts: 435
Good Answers: 1
#7
In reply to #6

Re: Stall Time Of Motors

05/28/2011 11:14 AM

Just a little pricking... I know why you got 5 votes for a GA.

__________________
Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong
Register to Reply Score 1 for Off Topic
3
Anonymous Poster #1
#9

Re: Stall Time Of Motors

05/29/2011 12:18 AM

Until the unit starts producing smoke or 5 seconds after manufacturer's recommended LRA, depending on which occurs first!

Register to Reply Good Answer (Score 3)
Guru

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: sometimes Wales,UK.. was Libya, now Oman!
Posts: 1715
Good Answers: 117
#10

Re: Stall Time Of Motors

05/29/2011 7:16 AM

why do you need to know?

Are you installing protection equipment to prevent rotor lock or trip the control gear if you get a locked rotor, or are you just making a general inquiry for yourself?

The submersible motors I use and the associated and matched control equipment monitors motor function and if we get a locked rotor, there are several protection settings that will trip the motor contactor, those are "Stall", "Locked Rotor", "Instantaneous Over current" to name a few, and all of these will trip in milli seconds.

As it has been suggested, contact the makers to see what info you can get from them.

__________________
The square root of nothing is what you make it!
Register to Reply Score 2 for Off Topic
Guru

Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 7025
Good Answers: 207
#11

Re: Stall Time Of Motors

05/29/2011 10:13 AM

If you explained the actual problem you're experiencing you'll get more quality responses.

Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: sometimes Wales,UK.. was Libya, now Oman!
Posts: 1715
Good Answers: 117
#12
In reply to #11

Re: Stall Time Of Motors

05/29/2011 11:00 AM

here we go again.. a "off topic" vote for us both... but no-one wants to say why!!!

Please, whoever you are... have the back bone to say why.. i'll not be offended.. I might even learn something!! and I'm sure Fredski won't mind either!!

See..... I've even said I'm off topic!

__________________
The square root of nothing is what you make it!
Register to Reply Off Topic (Score 5)
Guru
United Kingdom - Member - Indeterminate Engineering Fields - Control Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: In the bothy, 7 chains down the line from Dodman's Lane level crossing, in the nation formerly known as Great Britain. Kettle's on.
Posts: 32175
Good Answers: 839
#14

Re: Stall Time Of Motors

05/31/2011 4:24 AM

The stall time is limited to the difference between the contactor energising and the overload trip operating.

__________________
"Did you get my e-mail?" - "The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place" - George Bernard Shaw, 1856
Register to Reply
Register to Reply 14 comments

Good Answers:

These comments received enough positive votes to make them "good answers".
Copy to Clipboard

Users who posted comments:

Anonymous Poster (1); brich (2); Fredski (1); hien.nguyenquoc (5); msamad (2); PWSlack (1); TonyS (1); Tornado (1)

Previous in Forum: NPN vs PNP   Next in Forum: Wireless Remote for Forward Reverse Starter
You might be interested in: Stepper Motors, DC Motors, Rotor-Stator Mixers

Advertisement