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Lubricant for Brass on Stainless Steel Thread

06/28/2011 11:38 AM

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A design I'm working on requires a threaded stainless steel shaft to mate with a threaded brass socket. The shaft will be used more or less as a lead screw, but will have a standard UNC thread. I need to lubricate the mating threads to reduce the torque required to turn the screw. Rotation rates will be low, in the 60 rpm range, and intermittent, often sitting idle for days or weeks at a time. I need a lubricant that is compatible with both metals and that will last a long time, ideally a number of years, without needing to be re-applied.

Any advice would be most appreciated!

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Re: Lubricant for Brass on Stainless Steel Thread

06/28/2011 11:44 AM

How about powdered graphite, then?

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06/28/2011 11:53 AM

Change the thread to acme and use oil impregnated bronze. These are standard components for the application you describe.

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06/29/2011 8:37 AM

I worked In a machine shop many years ago where We used this exact application as You discribe. Had no problems.

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06/28/2011 11:55 AM

Just about any NGLI 2 grease should fit the bill nicely.

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06/28/2011 11:59 AM

It doesn't really sound like a good idea to go a number of years without re-lubrication, no matter what you use.

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06/28/2011 12:32 PM

This type of arrangement will need frequent lubrication, forget about yeras. Further as operation is intermitant, thread flushing also needed for the startup after long break. Normal gear oil should be applied frequently during the operation may be through force feed lubricator or manually.

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06/28/2011 12:43 PM

Try a lubricant with MoS2. It has the advantage to adhere to the surface and even with a loss of grease will still function as lubricant. Graphite is also a solution but it does not accept always same pressures as MoS2. Such grease is usually fund under the name of Molycote. To be sure it would be of interest to compute the "pv" value i.e. the product pressure by sliding speed on the thread flanks. Very important for such applications is the surface quality, roughness MUST be between specified limits since too high wear is important and too low the lubricant cannot find a place to hang on the surface. Do not forget that grease will loose over time some components and also will react with oxygen so that its viscosity will increase.

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06/28/2011 11:38 PM

Loctite makes a whole range of anti-seize lubricants that work for your application. Check out Loctite's website and submit the details of the application to Loctite for their suggestion of which one is best for your usage. Loctite C5-A is the original and all types are very messy.

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06/29/2011 5:23 AM

we used a copper slip in the beginning with good service, but switched over to aluminium lubrication spray recently due to cost and have not had any problems so far.

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06/29/2011 10:03 AM

Their is a coating called Fluorolon 325 which is used extensively in the oil industry as a thread coating to solve problems in friction, corrosion, and galling. The coating typically applies 0.0005" - 0.001" thick per side and is comprised of PTFE and MOS2. The coating is an oven baked flluoropolymer coating and would require that you send the applicator doing this coating the parts to be coated. This along with any other grease or lubricants that you might use would make it a very slippery coating and should reduce your torque values considerably.

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06/29/2011 10:20 AM

Hi All, thinks for your input. I'm new to the land of grease, so all of this has been very educational for me, and will keep me reading Wikipedia (and legitimate technical sources ) for quite some time.

Specifically thanks to Nick Name and Rorschach, I think I will look into a combination of your suggestions, NLGI 2 grade grease with MoS2.

This isn't a particularly heavy duty application, the screw will be heavily axially loaded very infrequently, and when it is the rotation rates will be extremely low to the point that heat buildup will be minimal. So some of the more permanent / exotic solutions would seem to be a bit overkill, but like I said, quite educational all the same.

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Re: Lubricant for Brass on Stainless Steel Thread

06/29/2011 10:28 AM

If you have lots of money get the threaded stainless steel rod plasma nitrided. Both hardness and corrosion resistance of the surface are improved dramatically creating a low friction bearing surface which will last a long time with minimal maintenance although some lubrication should still be applied..

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