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Minimum Distance Between MCC and Wall

07/12/2011 11:42 PM

Can anyone please let me know what is the minimum clearance required from wall (as per statutory rules) to place a MCC panel in a room (single front type MCC with bottom cable entry)

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07/13/2011 12:31 AM

Zero, I think. (Else most MCCs I've seen are installed incorrectly.)

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07/13/2011 12:46 AM

The minimum clearance is 1 radian/fortnight x the square root of the inverse if the voltage is 249V/11, or greater.

Otherwise, zero.

These rules do not apply if the walls are red.

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07/13/2011 1:28 AM

What he said...

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07/13/2011 1:29 AM

But seriously, unless it is a "back-to-back" MCC design, they are made to be totally front access and zero clearance.

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07/13/2011 1:44 AM

Maybe we should distinguish between the back clearance (zero) and the front clearance of walls or other obstructions. In the NEC (U.S. National Electrical Code), the required clearance is 3 feet up to a certain voltage, and 4 feet for higher voltages. I forget the dividing line--something like 250 or 300 volts.

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07/13/2011 1:20 PM

From 0-150 volts (condition 1,2 and 3) 3 feet.

From 151-600 volts:

condition 1--3 feet

condition 2--3 feet 6 inches

condition 3--4 feet

There are also extensive current rating derived clearances for working space arc-flash safety. NEC 620.5 references article 110 heavily. All panel doors must also open to a minimum 90 degrees.

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07/13/2011 1:38 PM

My mistake in ASS-U-Me-ing the OP was referring to clearance to the BACK wall, it actually wasn't clear. Good on you all for catching the distinction.

LOL on your signature line cuba pete.

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07/13/2011 1:41 PM

If (s)he is referring to back wall clearance, (s)he needs to choose a new profession.

Unless, of course, it is a double-sided cabinet. There is a lot to assume, isn't there?

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07/13/2011 5:23 AM

With some of the genius designers I've come across it's maximum panel door width minus six inches so it's impossible to fully open the door!

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07/13/2011 5:52 AM

Exactly. One does need to be able to get the door open!

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07/13/2011 7:56 AM

You need to look at your local fire codes. As the clearance is set by those. Here I believe it's 5 feet. That is not just from the walls but any obstruction.

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07/13/2011 8:17 PM

It depends on the working space required for the MCC. If the back side of the MCC is required to open for the working (back accessible MCC), the sufficient working space is required between the wall and the MCC. If not (front-accessible only MCC), it can be attached to the wall. The distance required also depends on the MCC voltage and the type of wall. NEC 110.26 (up to 600V) and 110.34 (over 600V) has the detail space requirement.

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07/13/2011 10:31 PM

msamad; that link ROCKS!!!! if you back up a little in that directory there is a proverbial a$$load of info on there!!! as for the MCC issue; unless prevented by composition of the wall (rice paper, balsa etc) a front only unit is designed to be mounted against the wall..unless "local jurisdiction" requires otherwise.

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07/14/2011 3:12 AM

Hi msamad,

I agree 100% with duffdr when he writes that the site you gave is MAGIC. Thanks!

A little further back on that same site is a list of very interesting E-Books as well.

Regarding the OP's question I think your answer goes right to the crux of the question by stating 'sufficient working space being required'. Apart from the legal requirements (which often tend to give the minimum requirements) a practical approach which allows easy access should always be employed.

Reading some of the other posters comments I was reminded of times when I would have to actually take the door off in order to get clear access.

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07/14/2011 11:37 AM

Great link! Thanks for the magic.

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07/14/2011 12:27 AM

From a ventilation point of view it is better to have little clearance.

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07/14/2011 11:39 AM

In real no standards as such, but the minimum clearance is whatever you need to open the MCC for maintenance access and to take items in or out of the MCC.

If the MCC is specified as front entry than you can place it right against a wall if you want, generally leave a space for ventilation.

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07/15/2011 9:31 PM

Mr. Vithal,

you can download "Indian Electricity Rules" from "www.india.gov.in" for your reading.

Following are the required clearances around a MCC.

Front: minimum 3ft (from any projected point)

Sides: Less than 200mm or more than 750mm

Rear: It can be flushed to wall if it is single front, otherwise less than 200mm or morethan 3ft.

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07/18/2011 1:57 AM

Dear Sitaram,

Thank u for your reply can you please give me exact link wherin i can get this info

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07/19/2011 1:41 AM

Mr. Vithal,

i gave you the url of Govt. of India where you will get many of acts & rules. Any how, here is the direct link to Indian Electricity Rules-1956.

http://www.india.gov.in/allimpfrms/allrules/484.pdf

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Dear Mr. VITHAL,

I believe you are in India. As per I.E.R it is 900 MM min.

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<...minimum clearance required from wall...as per statutory rules...>

Are there such things?

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