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Iron Nail?

07/16/2011 9:42 AM

I found this old looking nail while out walking the dogs. It seems to have a very thick head and had no rust on it. This is how I found it. I live in Stonehaven, Scotland and there is an iron age site about 200 yards from where I found this.

I'm trying to find out more about it. How old is it? What would it have been used for? Why is the head so thick but not very wide?

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07/16/2011 10:00 AM

Sorry, it is a bronze age site near where I found this. Is it bronze age or is it modern?

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07/16/2011 10:24 AM

Could be an old hand forged rivet

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07/17/2011 11:29 AM

agreed. my first thought too. but the rust thing....?

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07/16/2011 11:08 AM

"Why is the head so thick but not very wide?" It's as wide as it needs to be. Making flat heads with sharp undercuts would weaken the fastener and be much more time consuming.

I'm just applying common engineering sense here, and have no educational background in archeology, nor history, nor metallurgy, nor............ well you get the picture. It's a wild Arse guess.

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07/16/2011 2:24 PM

The older nails that I have seen have square heads, like the hand wrought nails shown here. Your nail head looks very round and regular as well as thick... I suspect it is machine made and modern.

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07/16/2011 5:26 PM

Perhaps, a rustic hinge pin.

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07/17/2011 12:35 AM

You said it had no rust, but it looks like it does. It could be a bronze nail. Try cleaning it with copper cleaner and see if it shines up. If it is iron, a magnet will pick it up. A head of that shape suggests it is a finish nail. If you expected anyone here to be a bronze age expert, you may be disappointed.

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07/17/2011 2:59 AM

It's a bronze age golf tee!

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07/17/2011 6:40 PM

make that mini-golf.

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07/17/2011 4:25 AM

This to me looks like a nail in the making, the smithy hadn't got around to "upsetting" the head yet & therefore is incomplete, the other thing is it could be a horse shoe nail which again hasn't been completed where the head is ok but the shaft has not been forged out to a point. When I was an apprentice I was taught to shoe horses but was fired when one fell out the vice!

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07/17/2011 11:28 AM

lol!

but all the shoing nails I remember were square... made from a rod, and squared up and cut by the blacksmith.

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07/17/2011 5:50 AM

I mailed your photograph to my daughter who is an archaeologist. This is a summery of her reply.

probability <95%

Machine made nail manufactured between 1850 and 1930. Mainly used on building construction where the nail head is completely buried into the timber. The deposit is a type of rust called magnetite Fe3O4 that forms next the the iron and under an outer surface of ferric oxide Fe2O3 the brown flaky rust we usually see. The absence of ferric oxide suggests that the nail has been naturally abraded possibly by sand or wind action. (Was this found on or near to a beach?)

probability <50%

The nail is of the type and size used for fixing sarking or sarking battens to roofing. This would be reinforced if there is evidence of a demolished property near to the find site.

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This type of nail was replaced by what we call wire nails or oval nails between 1910 and 1930

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07/18/2011 8:49 PM

WoW! Fantastic answer jhh!

Since it was Scotland, I was leaning toward the Bronze Age Golf Tee

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07/27/2011 2:37 AM

Thanks for the answer. I'd go with what you said. I found it on a dirt track so it was probably cleaned up by the grit and dust.

We live on a castle estate. The castle itself was built in the 14th century and workers houses have been built at various periods since then but there is also a bronze age site here hence my interest in what period it comes from. It is quite possible 1850-1930 is correct.

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07/18/2011 12:00 AM

Do you have a local museum you could ask?

Is it attracted to a magnet?

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07/20/2011 4:53 AM

the square head would indicate that it's a screw rather than a nail. your location would indicate that you found it on the coast. i'ld guess it's from a ship. ship builders always used corrostion resistent metals. it may even be from a viking vessel. analyis it.

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