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Does Laser Cutting Harden Mild Steel?

09/09/2011 9:32 AM

Hello CR4 brains,

This may be a daft question, but I am hoping you can provide me with a definitive answer. When laser cutting mild steel, does the material develop a hardened edge? My understanding is that mild steel cannot be hardened due to the low carbon content, however I recently had a discussion with someone who assured me that I was wrong. If the material does develop a hardened edge, please can you explain the process to me...

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Re: Does Laser Cutting Harden Mild Steel?

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09/09/2011 10:16 AM

Hi Mikerho,

Thanks for the speedy reply. I had a look at this site before I posted my question. My understanding is that the laser-cutter would not quench the parts after cutting. If air-cooled, would any case-hardening take place ?

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09/09/2011 11:41 AM

This is not my area of expertise. Why do you want to know? Are you hoping for hardening on the edges?

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Re: Does Laser Cutting Harden Mild Steel?

09/09/2011 6:46 PM

As with the explanation in the link carbon is added from a torch set to burn rich. The edge cut with a laser can acquire carbon from the air, oils or preservatives on the surface of the steel.

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09/09/2011 11:36 PM

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Mild steel will have low carbon, but carbon content will be finite, >0. This definitely will respond to rapid cooling that takes place from the very high localized temperatures ( anything above 723 deg sets phase transformation in steel ) achieved while laser cutting. The HAZ ( Heat Affected Zone ) can be expected to be very localized. The changes in hardness value will not manifest very clearly in macro scales like Rockwell or Brinnell. Preceptive differences can be made out in micro scales like Vickers or Knoop.

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09/10/2011 12:42 AM

I think islookar got us a good start on this. I can't answer the question with anything to hang my hat on. But a little sideways exploration may be informative.

In the Blacksmith world there is a good bit of messing around with a process called "Superquench". Here's a web page that talks about it:

http://magichammer.freeservers.com/robb_gunter.htm

Also another web page that discusses quenching from the blacksmith point of view.

http://www.anvilfire.com/FAQs/quenchants.htm

The blacksmith community reports the super quenching mild steel seems to give unpredictable results. I believe that is due to the carbon content variation allowable by the AISI spec for those steels.

I have an ASM Metals Handbook 9th ed., Volume 4 (Heat Treating). On page 34 there is Fig 4 which is 3 charts of hardness vs. carbon content for 3 percentages of martensite (the crystal form of the hard steel). The data points are scattered and limited below 0.25% carbon. But Rockwell C hardness readings in the range of 25 to 40 are shown with a clear upward trend between 0.15%C and 0.25%C.

Important to point out here is that the specs for common low carbon steel forms AISI 1018 and AISI 1020 allow a range of carbon of 0.05%C or 0.06%C. The data points in the above mentioned ASM Handbook figure suggest a possibility of as much as 8 or 10 points Rockwell C variation between 2 samples of superquenched 1018 from different mill runs.

This all suggests to me that you could get some important hardening in the edges of a laser cut mild steel part. I suspect any common mechanical hardness testing method would at best give questionable data due to the physical size of a sample and its particular geometry. I would instead go for a traditional sample mount, polish and etch examination for the presence of martensite formations in the heat affected zone.

But before you go to that expense use what new knowledge I may have provided to search for solutions to your problem that others may have already found. I doubt that you are the first to ask your question.

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09/10/2011 1:35 AM

Hi

A company changed from a punched product to laser cut and where they previously tapped the punched holes, they had problems with the laser cut holes (broken taps). I often drill with HSS drill to open up laser cut holes, but use cutting oil and slower speed. I think the hard skin is very thin, maybe 0.001" - 0.003".

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09/10/2011 1:58 AM

Tony - That's good info. You'd never be able to get a reading on something that tiny with any kind of indenter type hardness tester.

A couple more thoughts. A little work under a 10X microscope with a #6 cut swiss jeweler's file or maybe a used dental rasp like they us to clean out root canals might show the difference to the trained eye between hard and not hard. Cheaper than the metallurgical lab.

Another thought that might take some experimenting. Change the power and/or focus on the laser and have it temper or even anneal the hardened edge on a second pass. This is where the file test on the hole can come in handy in determining the right laser setup.

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09/10/2011 8:14 AM

Anyone involved with surface chemistry will tell you that within minutes of the most fastidious cleaning, any surface exposed to air will become coated with a thin film of carbon. I would suggest that laser cutting might alloy this carbon layer and form a very thin layer of "case hardened" material.

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11/15/2013 2:15 AM

I am not a surface chemistry professional.But i am curious, is it due to the diffusion of Oxygen atoms from atmospheric air to the surface of molten steel and subsequent formation of oxytrides (another form of nitrides)?

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11/15/2013 7:04 AM

No, it is because Iron has an affinity for Carbon and the iron/carbon alloy system has two distinct crystal configurations depending on temperature. at high temps, steel is Face Centered Cubic, which means that you have 8 iron atoms configured as the corners of a cube, and there is a carbon atom centered on each face of the cube. but as steel cools, it wants to switch to Body Centered Cubic and has just one carbon atom, centered in the middle of the volume of the cube. But if you cool steel quickly, it doesn't have time to get rid of the extra carbon atoms and that strains the atomic links. That strain is what makes Steel harder/stronger.

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09/10/2011 8:38 AM

Any time you use enough heat to cut you will get a chemical and mechanical change locally. If just trying to satisfy your curiosity then take a fine file and stroke the burned edge and compare it to a raw edge. Sound should tell if hardened. Plasma and laser are much gentler on the steel but waterjet is the way to cut without charring the edges.

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09/10/2011 10:04 PM

most laser cutters use a jet of high pressure gas, many use nitrogen (n2), some use CO2, to help blow the molten metal away from the kerf. in the plasma stream, N2, becomes ionized and becomes atomic Nitrogen. Atomic nitrogen hardens steel as well, not as much as carbon does or as deep. and of course if it is CO2, then that just adds carbon to the molten surface. a micro-hardness survey (either vickers, or my perference for something this small which is Knoop, the indenter for knoop is wider but not as tall so you can stack the indentions closer together vertically which makes surveying something this thin much easier.) of a polished section across a HAZ will show how hard and how deep it is.

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