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Orifice Calculation

02/15/2012 10:51 PM

We have one Synthesis Gas Compressor with Re-cycle stage.The flow of the Re-cycle stage is 118000 NM3 per hour.The Re-cycle stage discharge pressure is 340 kg/cm2and temp is 45 degree cen.

Now I want a tapping from this stage for a flow of 500 NM3 per hour for using it as a flue gas. How to calculate the orifice for this flow.

Upstream Pressure is 340 kg/cm2

Down stream Pressure is 1 kg/cm2

Pressure difference is 319 kg/cm2

Opp Temp is 45 degree cen

Required flow id 500 nm3 per hour

Fluid is Synthesis Gas with 11 % Ammonia

Molecular weight 10.9

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Re: Orifice Calculation

02/15/2012 11:42 PM

There should be some good orifice data out there (I have used some for refrigerant designs with much less ΔP). Alternatively, you could start with a small orifice and progressively drill it out until you reach a satisfactory size. Or even a needle valve, which could be adjusted if conditions change later on.

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Re: Orifice Calculation

02/16/2012 11:25 PM

Your job doesn't look too complicated for flow measurement. More complicated part is pressure reduction from 340 to 1 kg/cm2. You said "Pressure difference is 319 kg/cm2" , I think it shall be 339 kg/cm2. You may require multistage reduction with reliable controls with safety relief system because of hazardous nature of gas.

I think installing flow measurement orifice in downstream in low pressure piping may give better result as temp & pressure correction factor will be less. Installing in upsteam pipe may have less hardware cost due to smaller size. However, you can consult instrumentation engineer or supplier for correct location.

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Re: Orifice Calculation

02/17/2012 10:06 AM

If this is going into a furnace like the reformer in an ammonia plant shouldn't it be part of the burner management system and be a metered and controlled flow with at least a control valve and probably a block valve as well? Are you trying to use the gas as an SCR ammonia source? In either case, I'm not sure that just an orifice will suffice.

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02/17/2012 10:18 AM

When you go on the internet you can download a number of orifice plate calculation formulas.

Myself I would suggest you use the ISO 5167 or AGA formulas which you can purchase real easy.

There are a number of variables that you would need as for example, the viscosity of the gas, reynolds number etc.

Also you will need the true or average density for the calculations.

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02/18/2012 10:39 AM

Calculate the velocity of sound it the gas by formula √(γ*R*T/M) where

γ = specific heat ratio, R = gas constant, T = upstream absolute temperature, M = molecular weight.

Calculate upstream density, assuming the fluid obeys the gas laws, which should be near enough.

Choose a coefficient of discharge, usualy 0.62 for an orifice.

ΔP is well above critical, so flow is sonic in the orifice. Then mass velocity kg/mm2/s = CD x sonic velocity x density.

Convert your 500 Nm3/h to kg/s. You can now calculate orifice area hence diameter.

I make it about 1.7 mm.

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