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Vapor Accumulation in Pump Recycle Line

03/12/2012 3:09 PM

we are facing vapor accumulation problem in recycle line of our single stage motor driven centrifugal pump on lube oil service.When pump is tested on recycle by keeping its discharge valve closed,time delay in achieving its desire pressure is observed due to vapor accumulation in the line.Flow through recycle line is controlled through an orifice of diameter 5mm.

  1. what should be done in order to prevent vapor accumulation in the line?
  2. What will happen if we go for increasing the size of flow orifice in the recycle line?
  3. What will happen to pump performance if we go for decreasing the size of recycle line?
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Re: Vapor Accumulation in Pump Recycle Line

03/12/2012 10:05 PM

Hi Ali,

You said: When pump is tested on recycle by keeping its discharge valve closed,time delay in achieving its desire pressure is observed due to vapor accumulation in the line.

  1. What kind of vapor are you talking about? You failed to specify.
  2. What is the temperature of the lube oil?
  3. What is the inlet pressure? Does this differ from normal?
  4. What is the outlet pressure? Does this differ from normal?
  5. If it is water vapor, how is it getting in the oil to begin with?
  6. How much time delay?
  7. Is this a sudden change in the normal operation of this pump?
  8. If so, what is the usual time to reach the desired pressure?

Are you absolutely SURE that the time delay is caused by vapor accumulation? If so, what makes you think so?

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Re: Vapor Accumulation in Pump Recycle Line

03/12/2012 10:28 PM

My comments are as follow:

1. Air is accumulating in recycle line since it is not completely dip in lube oil console from where the pump is taking suction.

Actually oil is not filling the line above the level of oil in the console as shown below which result in air accumulation.

2.Discharge pressure is 12 kg/cm2.

3.Time delay is of 90 sec.previously pump instantly achieve its desire pressure of 12 kg/cm2.

4. Yes we sure that air is accumulating in the line.

Hope my point is clear now.

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03/12/2012 11:32 PM

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Re: Vapor Accumulation in Pump Recycle Line

03/13/2012 11:08 AM

Hi Mikerho!

Configuration of pump is shown above.

We are sure that oil/air vapors are accumulating the recycle line.

We run the pump several times by keeping its discharge valve closed.

On 1st attempt, time taken by the pump to achieve its desire pressure of 12 kg/cm2 was 90 sec which reduced to 25 sec in 2nd attempt. On 3rd attempt pump instantly attained its final pressure, which shows that oil vapors are accumulating the line.

Temperature of oil console is around 62 0C.

Hope now the attachment is visible to you.Waiting for your comments on that.

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07/11/2012 5:00 AM

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Re: Vapor Accumulation in Pump Recycle Line

03/13/2012 1:31 AM

Have you considered installing water Air Eliminators?

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