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Speed of Light = Speed of Time

08/07/2012 5:57 PM

I don't know much about physics, but I know a little about water.

Time slows down as speed approaches the speed of light. Therefor, it is logical to assume that the "speed of time" is equal to the speed of light.

I can relate this as similar to a fixed object on a river bank, and time is the flow of the water going past this object at C.

If a person were to board a vessel, and go downstream,under power,the speed of time passage would slow in reference to the vessel and everyone on board. As the vessel approaches the actual flow velocity of the water(time=C ),the relative motion between the water and vessel would decrease. The passage of time would decrease relative to the observer on the vessel.

To a person standing on the shoreline, however, the time would be normal.

If the vessel were somehow able to travel faster than the flow, it would go backward in time. This of course would violate all known principles of physics.

So based on this very elementary comparison, if FTL were ever possible, it would result in a reverse travel in time, with no way to return.

Do these ideas conflict with any well known and accepted theories or principles?

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08/12/2012 8:32 PM

I am going to go way out of the box here, but how do we know that time is really going forward.?It is all a matter of perspective.If the universe eventually collapses, and all processes are reversed back to the point of a singularity,then cause and effect will be reversed, our thinking will be reversed, but we will not know it, for all will seem normal.The broken glass reassembling will be logical and normal.Just like playing a movie backwards.If the universe is an endless expansion/collapse cycle, then whichever phase you are in will seem normal.

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08/12/2012 10:44 PM

That idea is a scary thought. If we are going in reverse I am thinking I may never want to go to the bathroom again (or before or whatever it was).

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08/13/2012 2:26 AM

Forward ? I may have just figured why my wife and I keep arguing !

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08/13/2012 7:49 PM

I think that even if the universe will collapse back to the singularity, time will continue in the forward direction, I don't see processes reversing, simply the directions of matter in the universe. The expansion must come to a halt, slowly if Newton is correct, and then reverse. I see this as a case where all of the energy of expansion has been used up stretching the elastic and now the elastic starts to win.

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08/13/2012 9:06 PM

I think the universe is "hardwared" by immutable actions and reactions.Every action results in an opposite and equal reaction,that is generally accepted.Conversely,I believe that every action must be preceded by an equal and opposite "pre action". This does not sit well with some,because they claim that there are truly random events.I do not agree with that premise.Radioactive decay was once deemed to be random, but now there is evidence that it is not.

So if nothing is random,then everything that happens is a result of a prior action and that in turn by a prior action, and infinitum.

So in effect, the universe is "hard geared" to every event.

When these events reverse, it is inescapable that all the events will operate in reverse.

Of course, I could be wrong....

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08/12/2012 4:02 PM

This has been a fascinating discussion, but it's now getting a bit over my head. Some very good points raised by all parties.

For the sake of levity, I refer you all back to a classic quote by vermin; "If you break the speed of light, you pay for it". GA to anybody who can find the original comment.

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08/13/2012 2:23 AM

After the quote, he's probably flipping burgers ! Take a peek at this thread - it has some class comments that have relevance to this one.

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08/16/2012 6:06 AM

......But the time on moving object-is not slowing !! only the time readings of moving object, on the "fixed object" - slowers....

I hope still to remember it well...

If so all the manipulations are not relevant...

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08/16/2012 11:53 AM

I would love to go into more detail, but I do not have the time.Or space.

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08/16/2012 12:10 PM

My understanding is you must consciously make time and space.

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