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132kv/33kv Network Fault

01/15/2013 1:34 AM

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Last week on Thursday and Friday we had a fault in our network around 4hrs and 5hrs in the morning, where we have two 132kv incomer breakers tripped on dirrectional earth fault, and one 132kv feeder breaker tripped on distance protection, and 132/33kv 20MVA TRFR tripped on earth fault. Even today we don't know what could be the possible cause.

Can anybody try to help.

Tumane Selimo

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Re: 132kv/33kv network fault

01/15/2013 1:52 AM

The time you mention is just perfect for dense Fog.

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Re: 132kv/33kv network fault

01/15/2013 2:20 AM

Can you please go a little bit deeper into your findings? So far I would say there is an Earth fault!

(The other breaker tripped out of courtesy to the other breakers and should be left alone unless ....)

Is the system running normal? No repeat?

If nothing happens maybe you are alight. But chances are that if there is something wrong you have to investigate a hell lot more than you have told us.

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Re: 132kv/33kv network fault

01/15/2013 2:38 AM

Ever since, it did not trip till today, what we did, we ptrolled incomer line from hydro power station where we get a supply from and feeder line which tripped, but we could not get a thing.

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Re: 132kv/33kv network fault

01/15/2013 10:32 PM

If the problem persists you might have an earth fault. But check out the fog issue.

Is it always tripping in the morning hours?

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Re: 132kv/33kv network fault

01/15/2013 4:56 AM

After considerable thought, the only conclusion available here is that there is a directional earth fault present on the network.

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Re: 132kv/33kv Network Fault

01/15/2013 8:41 AM

If the transformer breaker tripped could be a 132 KV insulator [of the isolator switch or transformer] failure. As Happy singh said, the dense fog and pollution [may be] would amplify the phenomenon. It seems to me all of protection systems [which are involved] are instantaneous so there is no discrimination [selectivity]. But could be also 2 failures: one at the 132 KV bus and another between transformer and transformer CTs.

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Re: 132kv/33kv Network Fault

01/15/2013 10:45 PM

It is important to check a bit deep into the problem wiyth settings and timings of the earth fault. Relay mappings with their tripping sequence and if possible isolation and identification of fault. You cant generally assume that it is because of fog and if its si good but. Also check in neighbourhood if trippings happened due to fog elsewhere as well.

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Re: 132kv/33kv Network Fault

01/16/2013 1:20 AM

Detailed study and analysis can be made.But following informations are required.

Single line diagram

Relays provided

Relay settings details with CT ratios

Sequence of tripping.

Event history from the relays.( fault current etc)

Apparently there are many trippings.This may be due to non coordination of relay settings.

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Re: 132kv/33kv Network Fault

01/16/2013 1:30 PM

OHL tripping could be due to accumulated dust on the incomer OHL insulators copled with fog causing tracking/earth fault. Trafo earth fault protection operation can happen if the transformer has delta on 33kV and Star on 132kV. What is the transformer vector group!

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