PLCs in Mexico

Dear Gringo:

I am Mexican and have some experience in PLCs. Most brands can be found in this country; the choice depends on client's preferences and prices. Some brands are preferred for certain industries.

I suggest that you check the web pages of the manufacturers and contact their representatives in Mexico for availability, prices, spare parts and technical support.

With your "luck" they will have the Siemens ones!

Do also check out ABB as well. I know in Chile this would be common, e.g. in the Pulp & Paper Industry. Please do let us know which industries are mainstream in Mexico. Good to hear some news from Mexico.

I have done 2 jobs that have gone to Mexico and both customers specified Allen-Bradley. A small sample size I know but I do believe AB is a pretty big player in Mexico.

Shawn

Has Mexico City been cleaned up recently and public toilets built so that every time the wind blows the dust is/was mainly mainly human feces, due to so many people living on the streets and defecating everywhere......and when it didn't blow you have smog problems.....

My suggestion is NOT to move to Mexico City, but sell the house and move somewhere with clean water, clean air, clean streets, hopefully with no drug wars and good hospitals within easy reach.....

Even getting hold of REAL contraceptive pills may be a problem in Mexico generally some links mention.......

In 1991, when the air quality was declared to be a public health risk for 355 days of the year, it is improving, but very slowly. In the 1950's, it was considered to be very clean.....

I found this at the first link:-

Mexico City's levels of pollution are considered among the worst in the world, though the government has initiated numerous projects over the last ten years which are beginning to have an impact.
Among the main causes of air pollution are emissions from the millions of cars and trucks that pass through the city. Because there is no alternative infrastructure of road, rail, or water transportation in Mexico, the city has become a choke point for nearly all goods moving north by land from Central and South America. Industrial pollutants contribute to the problem as well.
Mexico City's geography is also a big factor: the city is surrounded by two mountain ranges which trap pollutants over the city.
Water contamination, from industrial waste and poor sanitation, sickens many each day. Homes in the barrios often lack sanitation, leading to health problems within these communities, and contributing to the overall unreliability of Mexico City's water supply.

Mexico City's levels of pollution are considered among the worst in the world, though the government has initiated numerous projects over the last ten years which are beginning to have an impact.

• Among the main causes of air pollution are emissions from the millions of cars and trucks that pass through the city. Because there is no alternative infrastructure of road, rail, or water transportation in Mexico, the city has become a chokepoint for nearly all goods moving north by land from Central and South America. Industrial pollutants contribute to the problem as well.

• Mexico City's geography is also a big factor: the city is surrounded by two mountain ranges which trap pollutants over the city.

• Water contamination, from industrial waste and poor sanitation, sickens many each day. Homes in the barrios often lack sanitation, leading to health problems within these communities, and contributing to the overall unreliability of Mexico City's water supply.

- See more at: http://worldsavvy.org/monitor/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=657&Itemid=1127#sthash.KVi8cVlV.dpuf

Mexico City's levels of pollution are considered among the worst in the world, though the government has initiated numerous projects over the last ten years which are beginning to have an impact.

• Among the main causes of air pollution are emissions from the millions of cars and trucks that pass through the city. Because there is no alternative infrastructure of road, rail, or water transportation in Mexico, the city has become a chokepoint for nearly all goods moving north by land from Central and South America. Industrial pollutants contribute to the problem as well.

• Mexico City's geography is also a big factor: the city is surrounded by two mountain ranges which trap pollutants over the city.

• Water contamination, from industrial waste and poor sanitation, sickens many each day. Homes in the barrios often lack sanitation, leading to health problems within these communities, and contributing to the overall unreliability of Mexico City's water supply.

- See more at: http://worldsavvy.org/monitor/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=657&Itemid=1127#sthash.KVi8cVlV.dpuf

Mexico City's levels of pollution are considered among the worst in the world, though the government has initiated numerous projects over the last ten years which are beginning to have an impact.

• Among the main causes of air pollution are emissions from the millions of cars and trucks that pass through the city. Because there is no alternative infrastructure of road, rail, or water transportation in Mexico, the city has become a chokepoint for nearly all goods moving north by land from Central and South America. Industrial pollutants contribute to the problem as well.

• Mexico City's geography is also a big factor: the city is surrounded by two mountain ranges which trap pollutants over the city.

• Water contamination, from industrial waste and poor sanitation, sickens many each day. Homes in the barrios often lack sanitation, leading to health problems within these communities, and contributing to the overall unreliability of Mexico City's water supply.

- See more at: http://worldsavvy.org/monitor/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=657&Itemid=1127#sthash.KVi8cVlV.dpuf

Mexico City's levels of pollution are considered among the worst in the world, though the government has initiated numerous projects over the last ten years which are beginning to have an impact.

• Among the main causes of air pollution are emissions from the millions of cars and trucks that pass through the city. Because there is no alternative infrastructure of road, rail, or water transportation in Mexico, the city has become a chokepoint for nearly all goods moving north by land from Central and South America. Industrial pollutants contribute to the problem as well.

• Mexico City's geography is also a big factor: the city is surrounded by two mountain ranges which trap pollutants over the city.

• Water contamination, from industrial waste and poor sanitation, sickens many each day. Homes in the barrios often lack sanitation, leading to health problems within these communities, and contributing to the overall unreliability of Mexico City's water supply.

- See more at: http://worldsavvy.org/monitor/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=657&Itemid=1127#sthash.KVi8cVlV.dpuf

Mexico City's levels of pollution are considered among the worst in the world, though the government has initiated numerous projects over the last ten years which are beginning to have an impact.

• Among the main causes of air pollution are emissions from the millions of cars and trucks that pass through the city. Because there is no alternative infrastructure of road, rail, or water transportation in Mexico, the city has become a chokepoint for nearly all goods moving north by land from Central and South America. Industrial pollutants contribute to the problem as well.

• Mexico City's geography is also a big factor: the city is surrounded by two mountain ranges which trap pollutants over the city.

• Water contamination, from industrial waste and poor sanitation, sickens many each day. Homes in the barrios often lack sanitation, leading to health problems within these communities, and contributing to the overall unreliability of Mexico City's water supply.

- See more at: http://worldsavvy.org/monitor/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=657&Itemid=1127#sthash.KVi8cVlV.dpuf

Some informative links are here:-

http://www.bvsde.ops-oms.org/bvsana/i/fulltext/asthma/asthma.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_City#Health

Gringo-greg my friend, Quite the contrary from my point of view. I could say good on you to have chosen to go down to Mexico (even if for a few years only). Looks like they can use your skills down there. I find the Capital to be an interesting and unique city in many ways. I just completed a 2000 piece puzzle of a Barrio somewhere in Mexico City. Could be that you have been there before. Don't let anything put you off a potentially good experience (You will only know when you go there). If problems with water and air then perhaps you can use your skills to come up with solutions in the form of contraptions. I have already started thinking about such-like.

To us problem solvers, I suppose, technical problems are quite welcome !

Good luck on your ventures Amigo !

The comments about pollution in Mexico City are very exaggerated. I have experienced many improvements in air quality and water reliability. The streets are much cleaner than 20 years ago, all cars must have 3 way catalytic converters and are verified twice a year, buses are beginning to be verified for emmissions, black plumes of buses are almost non existent (except for freight trucks), there are several new toll roads around the city so that traffic does not have to pass through the city, etc. etc. As for culture, this is among the 3 cities with more museums, world wide.

This is a city worth living in it. As months go by, you will see continuous improvements and will find an intense and rewarding assortment of cultural, leisure and professional activities.

Thanks Oscar, for your support. Read my reply #10 to Andy's very misinformed opinion of one of the great cities and cultures in the world. Twelve years ago I lived and worked in Mexico. I met my wife, Roxy, there and we were married there. It was solely from financial necessity that I returned to the US ten years ago. Since then it has been our dream to return to her home in Coyoacan, and live out the rest of our lives there. Now I have the opportunity and means to do this.

For those unfamiliar with Mexico City, Google "Coyoacan"

It seems that this has gotten off my original topic of PLC usage, but I will not let a place that I love be denigrated by people who have never lived there.

Hi Gringo, follow your dreams! You will have a wonderful life in Mexico: great people, excellent food, big business opportunities! On the other hand I must say I was a bit shocked too by Andy`s post, cause I felt it came out of the blue... Just let`s believe he may have written it on a bad day.

....then you did not either properly read or understand the links I posted. It was not my opinion, it was the opinions of many far better informed people than you or I.

"You can lead a horse to water, but he has to drink on his own".......do you understand that? (Probably not!).

I'm off somewhere else as it is pointless trying to help further for people who have made up their minds before they even first posted.....

Mexico has come a long way since 1991. My first trip into Mexico City and then Toluca was in 1995. Wow! Just as Andy describes! My last trip, same place for an industrial customer, was in 2007. No more black clouds of smoke behind the buses. You can actually breath now. My industrial customer says that they don't loose power anywhere near as much as they did in 1995.

By the way, they specify Allen Bradley.

Jim

The few machines I've sold into Mexico all used AB PLCs, including to an automotive seal plant just outside of Mexico City. I'd recommend brushing up on RSLogix 5000.

My last visit there I did not find the air too bad, although the level of pollution is noticeable compared to where I live.

The vote seems to be in, and Allen Bradley seems to be the system of choice. Now it is time for me to bring myself up to speed on their operating system. I appears to be straight RLL based, so no problem. I just need to learn their addressing conventions, and their programming software

Heavens, 129 CB Rider, the place looks magnificent. Way, above my expectation !

Why didn't they alert us earlier. When can I get to go down to Mexico City ! Lets hope that Gringo Greg does get to go down there. Then perhaps we will have a good contact in this city. My guess is that whatever baddish accommodation conditions do exist are probably on the outskirts of the Capital City. This particular city's population grows at a massive rate (it has half of the country's population). Other cities have an even more peculiar phenomena. Such as the city of Johannesburg, SA, where the entire mainstream of the city has relocated. The relocation has been north to satellite cities/ towns. The original city location still is populated but by a different people/ largely of lower income groups.

Problems such as these present fertile ground fro creative problem solvers. The great architects, civil engineers and town re-planners could have a "field-year" in such environments ! Do alert them to the opportunities. And much thanks for giving Mexico City a good run. I never though of going down there. But now I will give it serious thought. I might even brush up on a bit of Process Control to the level that I can at least talk about Alan Bradley at Parties. It's just the Tequila that I'm a bit weary of. If anyone knows, please do let us know what cool beers they have down there.

www.thelearningpit.com/lp/logixpro.html

Here is 30 day free software and then cheap to buy. I use this and I like it. There are other choices.

Good lead. Thanks