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Final Max Output Torque of a Gear Drive

07/24/2013 1:37 PM

I have a gear drive that the specs claim the max output torque will be 100 kNm and speed range 0-25 rpm. It has two hydraulic motors with pinions on each that drives a center gear mounted to the output shaft. Both motors turn at the same time, same speed with their pinions meshing with the gear. The ratio of this gear drive is 3.6875:1. The motor specs state the theoretical torque at 100 bar is 6373Nm, power 140 kW and a max speed of 138. I keep trying to work with the formulas to determine how this is accomplished (the final max output torque of 100kNm) from the given specs of the motors but I don't get close to the 100,000 Nm. What am I possibly missing?

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Re: Final Max Output Torque of a Gear Drive

07/24/2013 3:13 PM

Two more motors, and slightly higher pressure?

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Re: Final Max Output Torque of a Gear Drive

07/24/2013 11:01 PM

Tornado is right, except for one flaw in the logic.

The max torque value will be at a speed that is lower than the Max Speed- Power figure given.

As for most motors, the max torque (as distinct from torque at max power) will be higher and at some mid speed range figure.

What you have not got in your calculation, and which makes it all fit together is the speed torque curve for the hydraulic motors.

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Re: Final Max Output Torque of a Gear Drive

07/25/2013 3:22 AM

...and the max torque isn't the running torque.

At the max torque one might reasonably expect the overload trip device to become a bit anxious about operating. Anything more, and it ought to operate to protect everything. And if it doesn't operate the wrong side of the max torque, then it is incorrectly set.

People get a bit obsessed with torque on motors in this forum, it seems. Torque is what the load presents to the motor, not the other way round.

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Re: Final Max Output Torque of a Gear Drive

07/28/2013 4:19 PM

The two motors are synchronised , logicaly the havre the some torque. Make à calculation for one motos and muliply bye two .

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Re: Final Max Output Torque of a Gear Drive

07/31/2013 6:01 AM

I figured out what I was doing wrong or leaving out. I kept just using the theoretical torque at 100 bar and not considering variable pressure and speed. I found a chart for the motor showing different values at different pressures and this helped solve my calculation problems. I still have much more to learn here or remember what I had learned but forgot since I had not been using these type of calculations for many years. Thank you all for your help, comments and input on this topic. I will have to take those college books off the shelf and refresh my knowledge and work on the next design.

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