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Quadcopters

09/20/2013 5:49 PM

Recently, I have been thinking about purchasing a quad-copter. I admit that I am surprised at their manoeuvrability and stability (the later after viewing a TED talk on efforts being made on that subject using computerisation of basic algorithms).

I am wondering what are the limitations and challenges associated with scaling of quad-copters. Is it practical to increase the size enough to carry a person(s) ? What about scaling in the other direction ? Thoughts. Comments.

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09/20/2013 6:07 PM

Well you have the quad quad copter.....

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09/20/2013 6:20 PM

I find it difficult to take anyone seriously who will not come out from behind the cloak of anonymity and ask a serious question.

It seems that you have done no research on the subject yourself, and there would be no way to carry on a running conversation with an Anon.

Get ye to the internet and do some research.

Come back with an identity and some sign of knowledge of the subject at hand.

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09/23/2013 10:43 AM

Hi Lyn,

I agree, but I know in my own quest (I'm always the LAST guy to buy something that everyone else seems to have), what I learned from the internet was only a TINY PIECE of what I learned later from folks actually doing it. I have played with the 'all in one purchase' (aka very little assembly required), and have stood beside one guy who has spent thousands on his toys, and that doesn't count his latest trip to the ER from nearly severing his finger on one of the rotors. There's no better info than from folks who actually have the experience.

Maybe it would have been better for the OP to ask if anyone "here" had personal experience with QC's

Kind regards ...

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09/23/2013 10:57 AM

After having attempted some risky and what I see now as foolish attempt at hobbies early in my life........ Even though I enjoyed what I did as I was doing it, if I had to do one thing that I could do over, that is to have kept it as anonymity as my work progressed.

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09/21/2013 9:37 AM

and have fun !

VTO (vertical take off) and the like will generate all kinds of opinion; but have fun with the facts, as lyn purports best.

r/c plane vto - hung on prop was based on using an electric mini-vacuum motor and taking 18 props for seeing the least wattage necessary to bring the ice-cream scale mounted-support back to just below "0".

there were still those very loud individuals at the club (supposed for public general folks) that yelled nothing better than the nylon top-flite for your 049 engine and performance...

to which the questioning and the rather empiracle testing revealed otherwise---

then a simple thing shared led to the club jumping in to the APC props simitar shaped and other highest efficiency shaped props for static thrust. Others were alreadyexperimenting with aerobatics requiring efficient thrust at 10 MPH - 40 mph and speeders with little 26" wing, 6 c-nicad-then-cell , x 6.5" props of 7" pitches for fun with 145 mph performance, etc.

What's interesting to me is the Swallow in a dive has that 'computor generated' designed most efficient leading edge curve, also similar to the curve of least material for the most stress like that of a tree bending in a gale force wind in those aerodynamics and physics we can still ask why do we even see that !? What's the purpose? HAH!

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09/21/2013 10:18 AM
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09/22/2013 12:45 AM

What no pics?

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09/21/2013 11:13 PM

To own and operate a quadcopter do you need a license/registration similar to motor vehicles?. Can any body fly without license in national air space which might cause danger to other persons,birds,animals or property?.

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09/22/2013 4:50 AM

The exact regulations depend on the jurisdiction, but there are two general principles:
1. as long as you have the copter in view at all times and are in control, the regulations are those that apply to model aircraft in general, and you do not require a licence. You do, obviously, have to keep out of controlled airspace, and you must not do anything to endanger other aircraft. It is wise to have full third-party insurance, as there are several instances of out-of-control models killing innocent parties.
2. Privacy. It is easy enough to attach a camera to a flying model and spy on neighbours' nude sunbathing, but there are civil penalties for so doing.

It is, by the way, illegal in most jurisdictions to attempt to fly a model aircraft by using the only on-board camera view. That is then classed as flying a drone, and requires a corresponding licence.

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09/22/2013 12:58 PM

Depends on many factors. For most small non-passenger models, no.

Most individuals who try to make something big enough to carry themselves will succumb to the Darwin theory of selection of the fittest and more intelligent.

Aircraft, and pilots who fly full size aircraft, are subject to the authority of the Federal Aviation Administration.

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09/22/2013 5:56 AM

phph001 said: "It is, by the way, illegal in most jurisdictions to attempt to fly a model aircraft by using the only on-board camera view. That is then classed as flying a drone, and requires a corresponding licence."

is there such a thing as a drone license, is it issued by the FAA?

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09/23/2013 11:43 AM

If your sandbox is in the USA, read this:
http://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/uas/uas_faq/

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09/24/2013 12:05 PM

under 400 ft (!) for models...?

so much for the 10 second electric VTO glider contests

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Re: Quadcopters

09/22/2013 10:45 AM

Lyn, all you do is speak negatively. I really bet you don't even have a job besides trolling. You guru Statius should be removed to grouchy smurf. Please kind sir grow up & stop being such jerk. You my friend do not add to this forum you suck the life from it.

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