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Resonsibility of Cathodic Protection System

12/08/2013 8:12 AM

Who is usualy responsible for the design and installtion of Cathodic Protection Sysyem for a new project in a large industrial plant (incorporating tanks, pipelines and steel structers) electrical, chemical or industrial project engineer?

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Re: Resonsibility of Cathodic Protection Sysyem

12/08/2013 8:18 AM

Whoever is given the responsibility in the specifications for the job, and includes it in their bid.

On a typical job, I would think that it would fall to the electricians...but that may not always be the case.

Edit: From the looks of it, cathodic protection is increasingly becoming it's own category, with required certification, etc.

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12/08/2013 8:45 AM

Yes.

All three will have certain areas of responsibility. The chief engineer/project leader/engineer in charge is ultimately responsible for the entire project.

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12/08/2013 10:23 AM

Cathodic protection can be a complicated solution. There are specialists involved in the design and installation of these type of systems. Without a doubt, they are "engineers" and "electricians". The solution will touch on all of the disciplines you mentioned.

Using a design engineer or electricians with limited experience in CP will not give you any assurance that the installed system would in fact protect the asset.

At the least... you need your design vetted by a design engineer with lots of cathodic protection design experience and who can ensure the electricians install it correctly.

To ensure that your asset is protected as it should be... please consider going to a firm with the specialized knowledge this type of work requires.

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12/08/2013 10:39 AM

It looks like a good line of work for a young person to get into.

It crosses multiple disciplines, and is being recognized as a specialty area that requires it's own title.

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12/08/2013 10:43 AM

Agreed... without a doubt... there are lots of things to consider with these systems. Including geologists as well.

That is... if you want them to work as they need to and that they offer little risk of shock.

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12/08/2013 11:08 AM

follow the money

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12/09/2013 12:09 AM

Whoever is qualified. Doesn't have to be an engineer, just someone who knows what he is doing. An "Engineer" title doesn't necessarily make him the right one. It's knowledge, the ability to get things done right and the ability to know what isn't right that counts. Also the ability to get the job done correctly and on time!

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12/09/2013 7:06 AM

Generally a materials scientist/engineer or chemical engineer having expertise in Cathodic Protection system will design the system and he will follow up supervising the installation and operation of the system to see how good it works, and if there are any bugs in it he would be able to ironout making the system work perfectly and it would last for a long time depending on the type of the anodes are used.

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12/09/2013 9:38 AM

It is usually the mechanical engineer who provided the specifications. At least it was the last project I had that involved CP. It is usually laid out with the specs and details provided by the manufacturers. The specification will lists the manufacturers involved that will meet the project criteria. Depending on the type of system it can land in the lap of the best trade negotiator. I have seen electricians install the work and I have seen pipefitters claim the work.

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12/09/2013 9:14 PM

Further to my comments, Cathodic Protection Systems are complex animal and you really need a fully trained material scientist/eng or similar type person, or you commission consultant for deign, installation, operation, testing and recordkeeping of the CPS. CPS protects the metallic structures from corrosion.

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12/10/2013 9:55 AM

The right answer was given by others, but here goes anyway: It is the responsibility of the chief engineer on the project to make sure that only a certified corrosion engineer oversees the installation of cathodic protection. This stuff follows some strange rules, that may not be apparent to the "average" engineer. Certainly, "someone" must be given this responsibility, or nothing will be done, and it will become an achilles heel later.

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Re: Resonsibility of Cathodic Protection System

12/10/2013 12:08 PM

To comply with many recognised national and international codes and practices, Cathodic Protection Systems shall be handled by a qualified and certified Cathodic Protection Engineer.

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