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02/03/2014 11:51 AM

We have a cold blast line having air volume 1400Nm3/min.& we are putting steam on that line.at a rate of 2T/h...can we calculate the humidity of that line in mg/Nm3???

Temp of air line:-around 150deg C

Pressure:-2 kg/Cm2.

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02/03/2014 2:52 PM

'....can we calculate the humidity of that line in mg/Nm3???....'

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Apparently not.

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How has 'we' attempted to solve the homework problem so far? Perhaps if you describe your attempt to structure the problem and the parts you are not confident about, someone may nudge you in the right direction....

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02/03/2014 3:04 PM

Undefined 'we' alarm! Arrrroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooogah!

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02/03/2014 5:51 PM

I have all the confidence in the world that you can do it.

Remember that "N" =0 degrees Celsius and a pressure of 1.013 bar

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02/04/2014 4:58 AM

Is 1.013 bar the same as 101.3 KPa?

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03/01/2014 7:24 AM

Dear Mr. JIMRAT,

The pressure relations are

101.3 KPa = 1.013 Kg/cm^2 = 0.9838 bar

But the 101.3 KPa has been ROUNDED to 100 KP = 1.013 Kg/cm^2 about few years back, by Standards Organization

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03/01/2014 7:26 AM

Dear Mr. JIMRAT,

The pressure relations are

101.3 KPa = 1.013 Kg/cm^2 = 0.9838 bar

But the 101.3 KPa has been ROUNDED to 100 KP = 1.013 Kg/cm^2 about few years back, by Standards Organization

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03/03/2014 5:38 AM

Thanks for your reply. I was having a tongue in cheek dig at the American refusal to join the metric system. Speaking of which; Is the mile actually a metric measure? It is, after all the distance the surface of the Earth at the equator will travel in one hour. ( at least it was when the mile was fist derived ).

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03/03/2014 12:36 PM

".... Is the mile actually a metric measure? It is, after all the distance the surface of the Earth at the equator will travel in one hour. ( at least it was when the mile was fist derived )...."

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Can we call your idea the "Slender Earth Hypothesis'? It seems like you are suggesting that at the time the mile was first derived that the equatorial circumference was a mere 24 miles.

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Perhaps there is some other important difference that wasn't base 10, making it to difficult to remember to mention. Ah, it must be time. Perhaps the units of hours were different, or perhaps it took more than 24 hours for the Earth to complete a rotation.

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If only the metric system would just be consistent and make all measurements base 10 then its adherents probably wouldn't have such trouble remembering simple things related to time. 100 seconds in a minute, 100 minutes in an hour, 10 hours in a day, 10 hours in a night, 10 days in a week. I'm sure all the stubborn Americans like me will be happy to jump on your band wagon, just as soon as you demonstrate how well a base-ten-time-modified-metric-system works to help you remember small details like, the equatorial circumference of the earth is a distance far far greater than a marathon.

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Just a little tongue in cheek jab at those who think they have it so together that they can take jabs at stubborn 'Mericans with impunity.

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03/04/2014 5:29 AM

I consider my butt well kicked. It was good for me to have a laugh at this time of day, thanks. As for metric being in several bases at once; that annoys the crap out of me as well. We measure air pressure in Hecta Pascals. Soon after this term was introduced I contacted the Bureau of Meteorology and asked why such a crazy term. The reply was that the oldies are used to millibars and at 1013 thingies HPa was closer to what they knew. Crap of course. KPa is, as you know, the standard. Hectare is also a strange one. It is derived from precisely what you propose, i.e. one are is 10m x 10m, but for some strange reason they go to 100 of them.

As a kid in school we had problems like;

Your grocer bought I gross (base 144) of apples. They weighed 1cwt (base 112) 2stone (base 14) 4lb and six oz (base 16 in most things base 12 in precious metal). He paid 2guineas (base21) 13s and 7 1/2d (base12). How much per pound does he have charge to make 30% profit?

The metric system was a pre calculator godsend. (1970)

At least America had the sense to have a metric monetary system. We got that in 1966 but with little forethought we made two dollars equal to a Pound. When the Poms ( English ) went metric they at least countered inflation to some extent.

P.S. obviously I left out the salient point, 1000 miles per hour at the equator. But you knew that.

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03/05/2014 2:51 AM

I'm glad you took my comment in the manner it was intended.

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02/03/2014 8:39 PM

(2 x 109)/(1400 x 60).

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02/04/2014 9:14 AM

Yes we can, yes we can, yes we can.......

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03/01/2014 7:35 AM

Dear Mr.lalit nawada,

Yes, we can calculate the Humidity IN TERMS OF Absolute Humidity and Relative Humidity. But you have to clearly tell what is the Steam Pressure and Temp., whether the 150 Deg.C is after mixing the steam, so as to arrive at the density of the air after steam is mixed. The air may contain some humidity which should be added to 2 Tonnes of steam.

You know the vol.of Air pumped and convert to Weight, taking Density in to account. Steam added is 2 Tonnes as given by you and Air temp. is 150 Degrees. Then the humidity in gms/Kg of air can be calculated and air can be converted to Volume.

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