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Electrical Question

02/22/2014 1:31 AM

Thanks for your positive reply. We are trying to set up one test bench for RRU (Regulated Rectifier Unit) which is having 130VDC & 193A Output.In this we are using 100HP/2-Pole, Induction motor driven by 100HP AC Drive. When RPM will reach 500 , Alternator of 25KW will generate AC Output in turn , RRU will convert it into stable DC output as above . In this we have used 4Q DC Drive which will take this DC output & converts it into AC & feeding back to main.When regeneration happening we are able to monitor in DC Drive but when we are checking with clamp meter main incoming current is doubling .eg. when we are running without regeneration the current at main incomer side will be 18A but when regeneration happening it will be 35-36A.But I think it should get reduced which is not happening.Pls give some suggestion.

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02/22/2014 2:43 AM

Contact sumairali.

He is very knowledgeable in electrical.

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02/22/2014 3:03 AM

Do something else.

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Re: Electrical Question

02/22/2014 1:00 PM

Why do you think it should be getting reduced?

All you are doing is creating an energy loop with a 100% loss going on inside the looped components.

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Re: Electrical Question

02/22/2014 11:17 PM

Hi Maruti,

We have also used 4Q System in our Test Plants, where in we have generated a DC bus and the Output Supply is Fed to this Bus. In our Case the 4Q is DC / DC, I do not know about the AC / DC 4Q System.

But the DC / DC 4Q System is Simple, You need to either replace the 100 Kw / 2 Pole motor with DC motor, or use Invert the Supply from DC Bus to AC and then Drive the AC motor.

In this Case your AC motor will be fed through the Inverted Power from DC bus and the Output from the Rectifier circuit will be fed to the Same DC Bus..

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Re: Electrical Question

02/23/2014 1:59 AM

Hi Vishram Thanks! This type of system already working at some place.If you dont mind i will call u pls give ur no.so that we can discuss in detail Regards

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02/23/2014 10:19 PM

Hi Maruti,

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02/24/2014 1:15 AM

Rather PM your details to the person in question to save yourself the hassle of embarrassing e-mails and attempts to fill your inbox with rubbish followed by a phone call from Microsoaft to help you with your (bank) account.

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Re: Electrical Question

02/23/2014 11:14 AM

This should work if implemented properly. Getting twice the current may be due to the bad power factor of the regenerative DC drive, or a simple connection error. Make sure that the phases are correctly sequenced.

You also need some galvanic isolation between the different switching devices if you are going to connect their DC bus together.

We do it on a continual basis to test our active front end power converters (inverters). The line only supplies the system losses of about 10%. We are presently running 2 x 400 kW converters in a loop with the line supplying less than 80kW.

The converters don't see much difference from a real application other than the higher feeder line impedance. It allow us to test our equipment at full power using a typical power feed.

This principle can be used with motors, transformers, generators, and electronic power converters.

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