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Better Batteries Coming

02/21/2014 3:27 PM
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Re: better batteries coming

02/21/2014 4:30 PM

If I had a dollar for every time I've heard this....................................................

Tomorrow, someone will have solved the battery problems "for all time', or until next week.

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02/21/2014 4:40 PM

True, but batteries will have to improve big time for electric cars and other devices powered by batteries to develop further. At present, battery powered cars are in limbo and are at risk of ever being a reality.

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02/21/2014 5:57 PM

The way technology in general is advancing, batteries may get there, someday.

Or, maybe some other form of energy???

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02/21/2014 4:59 PM

Lead acid will never work, not enough energy density/weight. I keep watching this area, I'm still cheering for zinc-air the day Will come!

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Re: better batteries coming

02/21/2014 4:40 PM

Yeah but put some whiskers on that lithium-ion and well there ya go, right back where you started....

http://www.gizmag.com/tin-whisker-battery-anode/22905/

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02/21/2014 5:28 PM

I like keeping up with this stuff also. Baby steps.

Just look at how far cordless tools have come in the last 20 years.

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02/21/2014 7:04 PM

"Just look at how far cordless tools have come in the last 20 years."

Yep. 20 years ago you could expect at least 7 - 10 good working years out of basic NiCad battery pack.

Now most can't it past the one year warranties before they start having capacity and charging problems.

If this is the same battery advancement that goes into modern electric vehicles I can see why they still aren't worth crap.

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02/21/2014 7:11 PM

True enough.

I was just talking about the power they get into the batteries.

But yeah...all of the wonderful technology in the world won't matter, if all they do is build and sell crap, to keep the investors happy.

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02/21/2014 8:36 PM

I will see it when I believe it!

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02/21/2014 9:00 PM

Here are some more links to high energy electrochemical batteries. Some of the descriptions are definitely inadequate:

http://phys.org/news/2013-09-molten-air-battery-storage-capacity-highest.html

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2008/07/researchers-d-2.html

http://www.google.com/patents/US20130134948

also new, lower cost flow batteries for off-peak electric storage:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140108154238.htm#

I understand everyone's skepticism - I feel the same. It's taking an awful long time to get what we need for a practical all-electric vehicle.

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02/22/2014 9:06 AM

Free beer tomorrow, too.

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02/22/2014 11:08 AM

the beer is always free, its the bottle deposit that kills you

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02/22/2014 11:44 PM

Yes, but will they ever make one small enough for my "Secret Spy, Radar Disabling, Laser Detecting, Ultra-Violet Light Emitting Dick Tracy Remote TV Watch"? The Ultra-Violet Light is so handy in bars when I go out for a cool one!

Let me know so I can put the old Timex away again.

Good Luck, Old Salt

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#14

Re: Better Batteries Coming

02/27/2014 4:47 AM

I am new to the membership forum but have been following and finding great value for a couple of years. I went back to school just about 2 1/2 yrs ago(after better than 23 yrs after College) for Clean Energy Technology, am almost done with my degree and yes, battery technology has come a fair distance and has still more to go. We are seeing great strides every day.

Is there any truth to the Lead reserves being depleted or gone?

It's folks like you and others like us that are helping make this happen. I will keep reading and watching and hope to contribute valuable information to this forum.

Keep it coming.

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