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Chemical Cleaning of Once Thru Units

03/04/2014 7:53 AM

Dear All,

How chemical cleaning of Supercritical Boiler differs from Subcritical Boilers?

And which type of protective layer is desirable Magnetite/Hematite?

Why?

Regards,

Vishal

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Re: Chemical Cleaning of Once Thru Units

03/04/2014 8:53 AM

I guess GOOGLE does not function in your part of the world....

http://www.hsb.com/TheLocomotive/ChemicalCleaningOfBoilers.aspx

Got a few bucks ??

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I will let you GOOGLE the last question and get YOUR VERY OWN answers !...... use the GOOGLE search terms "protective layer" boiler and magnetite !

Let us know the results.... try to tell us what you are attempting to do...!

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Re: Chemical Cleaning of Once Thru Units

03/04/2014 12:38 PM

Answer the questions on this test....what else?

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Re: Chemical Cleaning of Once Thru Units

03/06/2014 3:39 AM

Dear Sir,

Google works fine in my part of world . But m talking about Pre-operational cleaning in supercritical units.

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Re: Chemical Cleaning of Once Thru Units

03/06/2014 8:09 AM

Perhaps, VM, just perhaps.....

You should say what you mean in your original post.

It would save you and many others on this forum much time if you practiced this !

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Re: Chemical Cleaning of Once Thru Units

10/22/2015 11:04 AM

Since you were talking about pre-operational cleaning, then the only requirement is essentially the same as in any other boiler: do not use any alkaline solution unless it proven not to strip the surface chromium oxide layer. You can easily cause more corrosion problems than you will solve. On the other hand, no CIP pre-operational is likely to result in high velocity particle carry-over in the steam that will gouge your steam valves, and ruin your turbine's efficiency.

Any new unit or recently repaired unit (where there was a major repair or modification) should undergo extensive steam target blows prior to operation anyway.

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Re: Chemical Cleaning of Once Thru Units

03/04/2014 6:41 PM

It's all in the manuals, Dude. All in the manuals.

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Re: Chemical Cleaning of Once Thru Units

03/05/2014 11:14 AM

Hemi-magnetite (an adherent, purplish-red dark oxide) is effective, but appears only with the use of MEKO (methyl ethyl ketoxime). OEM specs for supercritical boilers, I suspect, would not allow this compound, but only hydrazine (and not carbohydrazide hydrolyzing to hydrazine), since these are "once-through" typically, and are on AVT (all-volatile treatment). The high operating temperatures require careful consideration of the stability of anything added to the water, and all are recommended in tiny, small doses.

As to cleaning: Never do this yourself with a homemade "recipe". Consult with OEM, and professionals who have documented experience with similar boilers to yours, with supplied references. Also you will want to consult with whomever is responsible for insurance coverage on your boiler, and possibly with the boiler authorities in your jurisdiction (they are the ones who come out and inspect your boiler). Document everything, and only clean when it is recommended to do so. This may involve both NDE of the tubing sections, heat profiling, and physical specimen removal for direct examination. This means that any specimen removed must be replaced with the same metallurgy, and welded according to the correct protocol.

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