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Google Sucks! It's Not a Search Engine Any More!

03/15/2014 7:40 PM

Google is no longer a viable search engine. It has become the poster child for the common core philosophy of dumb is good, and the pay for use philosophy, even if the result is useless.

Search on Google and Ask.com comes up, E-how comes up, both of which are geared to 5th graders and less. E-how is produced by trolls who give simplistic instructions that are worse than useless because they waste valuable time and are usually so general as to be useless.

Am I the only one who has noticed this?

What are others doing?

I'm looking for another REAL search engine. Any thoughts?

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03/15/2014 8:12 PM

I haven't noticed. I only use google for maps or images. Otherwise....

https://duckduckgo.com/

As long as we're ranting, I don't stay signed into ATT, (my ISP), or FB anymore. I log in to check email, and log into FB to see what's going on, and log out when I leave.

Along with that, I changed my email password; lo and behold, I've received about 6 emails in my spam folder in the last month, total.

Common Core is really bad.

I know you don't like Glenn Beck, and I think he's a little out there also, but there's a youtube video of him discussing how common core is implementing data collection from the time kids are starting school. I'll try to find it if you want; it's creepy sh*t, and he gives the publicly available government documents that explain what they want to do.

PS- Bill Gates may want to save the world, but the world he envisions, is one with him and his cronies at the top, and in exchange, the rest of us get food, shelter, and an assigned job.

That's what common core is about. It's about full, (global), control by a handful of elitists, with the rest of us serving them in exchange for safety.

For now, they are ignoring the fact that China and Russia are not interested in a single global government. That could lead to problems later on, I would imagine.

Who's gonna loan us the money to turn this Utopian dream into reality?

Gates has enough to last about a month.

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03/16/2014 8:28 AM

never saw the duck before, gonna give it a try

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03/16/2014 9:46 AM

It works for most everything.

I can't say for sure that it has anything to do with it, but it's one of several changes that I made, and I now receive almost zero email spam.

One thing that's immediately noticeable, is that if you use it to do a search on here, (in relation to a thread), you won't be blasted with related ads when you go to FB, or other sites.

Aw shucks. I must have made an impact last night...somebody's gone back and erased some GAs. I'll have to go back and see which debates I won. My memory is a bit foggy.

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03/16/2014 10:31 AM

I'm stuck on the Gretzky number of GAs

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03/16/2014 10:35 AM

I don't wonder after your performance of last night!

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03/16/2014 10:43 AM

Whatever. Whiskey always has a story to tell...it ain't always pretty.

As long as we have people that are willing to reach back and erase GA's, I'll know that I'm not the most immature one on here.

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03/16/2014 10:50 AM

Keep on trying, you'll make it someday.

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03/16/2014 11:01 AM

I know it.

I'm like the little train that could.

One day I may try out my caps lock button, and post conspiracy theories about Google.

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03/16/2014 11:44 AM

Cue theme music for the little crazy train called Kramarat.

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03/15/2014 8:25 PM

Did AltaVista say "hasta la vista"? E-how would anyone know, other than by Googling or Asking?

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03/15/2014 9:10 PM

How about a resurrection of Lycos?

Who's a good dog?

As the depth of poo grows exponentially, the drivel found must correlate.

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03/15/2014 11:23 PM

Go find the plane boy, go find it!

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03/15/2014 9:43 PM

All Caps?

Dammit! First kramarat lost his mind...now this.

Welcome brother.

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03/15/2014 10:16 PM

At any rate... jokes aside.

We are in the midst of a true transformation, and despite the rhetoric, I don't think it will turn out well.

As far as I'm concerned, there is only one recipe for success...even on a global scale; and that is unfettered individual freedom.

Along with solid laws that punish those that seek to strip freedom/rights from others.

Under that scenario, our current administration is guilty of the taking away of our guaranteed rights, and they should be punished.

If we can't punish them in court, they should at least have the balls to admit that destroying our constitution is their goal.

I'm willing to fight for my freedom...and I will die before it is stolen.

Liberals are not my enemy, and if Washington thinks they're on the cusp of control...watch me. I think I might be able to piss off 300,000,000 people...and guess what?

They'll be mad at you.

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03/15/2014 10:17 PM

Google Sucks! It's Not a Search Engine Any More!

Not all caps.

Don't know how that "a" got in there. ?

To the funny farm, ha ha.

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03/15/2014 10:52 PM

Those who choose not to comply, are racists. Racists are haters, and hate is a crime.

Do you think I'm kidding?

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I think you've lost your mind!

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03/15/2014 11:03 PM

Join the club. At least I'm a quiet nut, and don't type in CAPs.

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03/15/2014 11:19 PM

ha!

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03/15/2014 11:24 PM

What's that supposed to mean?

You know by now that I'm a little shy, and nervous about speaking my mind.

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03/15/2014 11:20 PM

At least you think he had one...

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03/15/2014 11:31 PM

ha!

I've never put much thought into it. I just like to laugh...........and here I am.

I'm just here to make you feel better about yourself. It's working!!!

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03/15/2014 10:26 PM

"I'm looking for another REAL search engine. Any thoughts?"

Have you tried searching Google?

https://www.google.com/#q=best+search+engines&safe=off

http://www.teachthought.com/technology/100-search-engines-for-academic-research/

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03/15/2014 10:29 PM

No, Google sucks!

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03/15/2014 10:38 PM

Well then ask Cr4, those basterds guys know everything.....

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03/15/2014 10:30 PM

While my earlier answer still has both validity and humor, I feel I should elaborate.

Google still has significant value as a search engine of the World Wide Web. Google never had value as an oracle but many misconstrued Google for one.

What Google cannot accurately do is to weight the merit, significance, usefulness, relevance or the many critical nuances that you, lyn, may have earlier found. The only thing that Google can do is weight cross references between sources and when an individual stops searching on a topic after following one of Google's links. When only the elite had access to the web this mantra worked well, a different paradigm existed in the caliber of both questions and answers a search engine had to deal with. [God! This atheist hates using the "p" word.]

The simple volume of people satisfied by a fifth grade level answer is not a testament against the information that Google can point toward. It is an acknowledgement that a fifth grade education outside of one's field is all that most need in life. This is what Google provides when the question asked is rudimentary.

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03/15/2014 10:39 PM

...or is it possible that lyn wants to eliminate google, and force the world to come to HIM for answers?

Hmmm.

He is approaching 1000 Ga's. Remember Lawnmower Man?

OMG! It's the parking garage man.

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03/15/2014 10:48 PM

Thanks, but I don't have time right now.

I have to go find a missing airplane.

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03/15/2014 11:00 PM

It's about time!!!

The only reason it's missing, is because lyn hasn't told us where it is.

I can't believe you perform this service for free. Is there any way we could pool our money and send it to lyndoor industries?

You rule dude!!!!

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03/17/2014 8:13 AM

I think the pilots stole it and started their own airline, "Two Men and a Plane".

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03/15/2014 10:42 PM

Yes well, it's the Gates syndrome.

Never give anything away, no matter how little value it actually has, if you can sell it, or convince someone they need it.

Unfortunately, Google has decided that E-How, Ask.com and other idiot "help" sites are a good way to make some extra cash.

Fine with me.

I'm looking at some other sites as I type.

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03/15/2014 10:49 PM

Try using a "-" in your search, as in -ehow.com -ask.com.

I find that when I'm looking for places to buy a product, google inevitably gives me sites on patents for the product. Add "-patent" to the search and it gets much better.

Google is only as good as the person using it.

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03/15/2014 10:54 PM

OK, I'll try that. I'll just have to make a list of all the things I don't want it to include in the search. Sounds simple enough?????????????

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03/15/2014 11:03 PM

Mastering Boolean search techniques....(I just like saying Booolean)

http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/TeachingLib/Guides/Internet/Boolean.pdf

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03/15/2014 11:12 PM

Does Boolean really exist, and did it ever? Does CR4 - Lyn = {}? Inquiring minds wanna know.

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Is Boolean a person?

...and did he/she ever find what they were looking for?

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03/15/2014 11:36 PM

I have a feeling Boooleeean is on that missing plane.....

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What plane?

She's got booze. Looks like a potential BFF to me!

Is a plane missing?

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This looks suspiciously like the missing plane, located on one of Lyn's properties with him and the missus sipping Boolean and caviar on the porch....

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Your link appears to be broken, but I have a captured pic of lyn from his webcam.

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Damn!

I just checked back in, and your picture was clear as day.

I'm sorry Joe lyn. It's SE's fault.

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The Teapot Dome in Zillah, WA, USA was just a gas station, rather than a house. As far as I know, it still exists, with some kind of historical landmark status. There is now a freeway past it, so that one must drive the "old" highway to see it.

Boulder, CO, USA has a number of unique houses, including the one featured in the movie "Sleeper".

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IIRC you can see that house on the way to Boulder (from Denver) but I'm sure it is fairly far from being in Boulder. I'm pretty sure there are closer towns too.

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From what I've read recently, and from personal experience, Google dropped Boolean expressions. Put something in quotes- who cares? Add a plus or minus symbol? Go *(%^ yourself. That's what Google thinks. Apparently, Boolean expressions are "no longer necessary" for them to show you what they want you to see.

My argument against Google is this: it used to make it easy to find what I wanted to find. Now, if what I want to find didn't happen in the last month, isn't for sale, and is not on the top 500 searched for items... well, apparently I don't need to find it, because there's something else they would rather show me.

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Welcome to the forum.

I think you're right.

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03/17/2014 12:58 PM

Google has several search engines....

https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/136861?hl=en

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Well, it is still Google, but for some tasks, scholar.google.com is pretty handy.

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03/16/2014 9:35 AM

Perhaps TungstenA.com Wolframalpha.com would be useful for some of your search activities?

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First thing you should do is to dump ASK PDQ.

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I'm looking at duckduckgo.

ASK was selected for me, as was the totally useless E-how.

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I like it. It's my default in Firefox, but I also have a pull down menu with google,Bing, yahoo, AVG.....

I don't miss doing a google search on here, and then finding related advertising on FB.

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03/17/2014 6:41 AM

I think that Ask has taken over your browser. It can be difficult to get rid of.

Its your fault, not Google's. Its often "attached" to "free" software downloads....

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03/17/2014 9:06 AM

Not the case here.

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03/17/2014 7:17 AM

I used to have the same annoying stuff happen. Got rid of Incredimail and some other free, fabulous programs. Uninstalled Google then reinstalled. All OK 'cept Google now gives me the choice of Twit Face and other social media sites as well as Chrome as a first option. It means an extra click.

I now use Firefox which has Google as its' searcher, all good.

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03/17/2014 1:28 PM

Ehow = Euseless

Anytime I have been suckered into looking at an Ehow solution for fixing something, it has been at best vague, over-generalized, non-specific and at worst, outright wrong.

I won't even click on an Ehow link anymore. Waste of time and bandwidth.

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03/17/2014 1:37 PM

Me too!

E-How is written by unknowing contractors, paid by the topic.

Most have never seen the items they are writing instruction for. (grammar check)

They NEVER give any specific instructions.

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03/18/2014 1:12 PM

Interestingly enough, I have found the best source for repair tips on cars and such is YouTube. Some of it is dreck, but a lot of people have put real effort into producing decent quality video with genuine good tips on things the shop manual is deficient in showing.

Failing that, I take my tools to the local Pick-A-Part junkyard and practice on someone else's car before I break off that hidden, critical tab on the dashboard trim or door handles, A-pillar trim, or . . . .

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03/18/2014 1:23 PM

Good ideas.....

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03/17/2014 4:59 PM

The internet is destined to go the way of television; reach as many people as possible and sell them something. It is getting more and more difficult to search for information. Searching for information comes with advertising now. Any word you enter into a search engine will pop up all sorts of similar and associated words that are associated with a product to buy.

You've seen those TV channels that say "This is a paid commercial"? Right; it's paid for alright, but by you and me; just check your cable or satellite bill. I'm talking about commercials like Dyson, Bose, "I hate my butt" and all sorts of kitchen appliances, not to mention jewelry, knives, tools and much more. These are channels that we pay for whether we like it or not. Maybe there are some who want to know if Dyson out sucks the Shark, but I'm not one of them.

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03/17/2014 5:56 PM

Well put!!!

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03/17/2014 6:51 PM

Never have tried google, so I'm not going to miss it. While someone was using my system to download music, a toolbar called 'conduit' installed itself, and it took an hour to remove the pieces.

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03/18/2014 8:27 AM

For narrowing searches I use the "+" sign like "copper+tubes" .... it works....

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03/18/2014 10:08 AM

Since most of the public are less intelligent than a 3rd grader they are going in the right direction. If you think most of us are smarter (this group is excluded) see who we elect. Try driving in DC traffic. I do know metro DC drivers have been graded as the worst in the country so maybe the rest of the country population are at a 5th grade level.

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03/18/2014 12:35 PM

I've never seen E-how, but occasionally Ask.com (which is very easy to avoid). I just did 3 searches, and neither one came up. I think you have a virus. But, if you want to try Microshaft's Bing, be my guest.

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03/18/2014 12:45 PM

Bing sucks.

You may be right about that corruption.

My work PC is fine.

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03/18/2014 12:51 PM

I do hate to say this but the corruption may not be a virus but a combination of Google's learning algorithm and your proffered Google search links here at CR4.

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03/18/2014 12:59 PM

Ask can "link" itelf into most browsers and it is a pig to get rid of.....it then jumps into any search you make. It is absolute rubbish, but clever in how it attaches itself.....

Re-install your browser.

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03/18/2014 1:06 PM

Yeah, unfortunately my wife is prone to trying the 'latest and greatest' and she was duped into loading the Ask thing into her browser. I must have spent hours trying to dislodge that garbage without destroying all her other browser add-ons and settings.

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03/18/2014 1:22 PM

I simply gave up and deleted Mozilla and re-installed it, that managed to finally get rid of it. Since then I am FAR more careful.......

You could say take screen shots of the pages of the add-ons, then delete the browser....

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03/18/2014 6:10 PM

I know it's been mentioned in other threads, so I'm a bit surprised it hasn't been mentioned here -- startpage.com

I had been using Ask.com for a few years. Then recently I found out they gave up the search engine business all together at least a year ago, and had been passing those search requests along to Google. Once I knew this I wanted to ditch Ask.com. immediately. I found out about startpage.com (by "searching"... how else??) and switched. Starpage also passes your search request on to Google and returns the result.

Google, like it or not, has the leading search engine. And ads will be here from now on just like GMO. Even if ads aren't part of your search results, the first link in those results you click on, is highly likely to have ad/commercial content. Try the word "freedom" on Google -- or other search engine -- and note any commercial links on your first page of results. Do we think an appearance of a commercial link is random? And "relevant" doesn't qualify as a rationale for a one-word search term. Interestingly, if you do the search on Google and try it on Startpage you get different results. Something isn't right about Startpage's claim to only be passing search requests on and sending back the results. It seems Google may be inserting a couple more commercial links, having identified the request as coming from Startpage, precisely to dissuade renegade searchers trying to escape Google. This would seem to negate the suggestion of using Startpage.

But privacy is still a concern and startpage uses Google's capabilities, while blocking your IP address and not saving your searches. (At least, that is their promotion.)

Also, the recent ruling about Net Neutrality, will, ultimately, make the Internet even more commercial than it already is, if that is possible. But the increase may be unnoticed by most. It's pretty saturated as it is.

To me, a lot of modern technology sucks. I try to minimize my use of it.

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04/05/2014 5:38 PM

Hey, I just ran across this and thought it might be helpful in relation to this thread. Acedemia.research.microsoft.com looks promising so far, though I haven't had much time with it yet, and Microsoft does have a less than stellar record for being able to not suck.

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(related: it took me a while to find this discussion using CR4 search....room for improvement? could related to the frequency with which we suggest people look things up on good though)

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