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AutoCad LT Replacement

05/16/2014 1:09 PM

Hello to all.

I'm looking to replace a 2010 version of AutoCAD LT with a more current version of a drawing program and do not want to pay the (in my opinion) outrageously high cost of even an upgrade from this group if we can avoid it.

I did a quick web search for AutoCAD 2D compatible drawing programs and got over 6 million hits which, not surprisingly, had AutoCAD listed in many of the top returned answers with many of the companies claiming to offer the "best" product.

I am looking for someone who has practical experience in switching over from AutoCAD products to a different drawing package for basic drawing work and would be interested to know what your experience was and what you finally decided to purchase.

What I am trying to do:

1. Open up dwg and pdf version saved drawings.

2. Create and/or modify to scale plant layout and equipment drawings in 2D.

3. Save the (relatively) simple 2D drawings in both dwg and pdf versions.

Most of us are infrequent users and we have used the LT version for years without the need to go to a high powered designer package that includes 3D, etc. This is going to be used at a company and at least some of the free packages out there that I looked at quickly are for personal not business use. I'm fine paying for a program, just trying not to sink thousands into upgrading our 4-5 licenses for the small amount of drawing and drawing review that we do.

Ideally I'd like to visit web sites of the top 3-4 programs recommended and see if they have a trial version to determine which works best for us. Any suggestions are appreciated and thanks in advance for your feedback

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Re: AutoCad LT Replacement

05/16/2014 1:25 PM

You can try TurboCad, I believe they have an LT version also as well as a Demo.

AutoCAD WD iPad app I believe is also free, or at lease cheap........ it does have limited capabilities, as well as the Inventor app

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05/16/2014 2:30 PM

Draftsight at http://www.3ds.com/products-services/draftsight/overview/.

Draftsight is much like 2D Autocad and is free.

Sounds too good to be true. Well, I think that this is a true story. I was told that Autocad filed a lawsuit against Solidworks for patent/trademark/whatever infringement with something that was somewhat industry standard (DXF I think). By the time it was all over Solidworks got mad, bought a company that was making an Autocad clone, improved it and started to distribute it for free as an "Autocad Killer".

I normally just let my draftsman do everything in SolidWorks, but from time to time I will do something at my desk. Since I don't have a SolidWorks seat I have used Draftsight. I have been happy with it.

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05/17/2014 11:48 AM

Bruce, just loaded Draftsight and it's the one for me.

Don't know how I missed it.

I'm having problems with my virtual XP/AutoCad at work. I'll be loading this on my desktop there on Monday.

Forget DoubleCad.................................................

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05/19/2014 9:27 AM

I hate doing 'me too' posts, but since this is more of a 'vote' post, I join in with the two posters above me in the chain, Draftsight is a great replacement for AutoCAD.

You will have to get used to a few differences, such as a consistent application of command order, with some flexibility in the order for simple tasks. Where as AutoCAD has some commands that are 'Command, first selection, second selection, value, confirm' and others that are 'First selection, command, second selection, value, confirm' and others that are 'Command, First selection value, confirm OR cancel' Draftsight tends to follow the Command, Selections, Value, Confirm' sequence. It may take some getting used to, since your 'muscle memory' will insist on doing several things 'backwards' in DraftSight, because those commands were written backwards in AutoCAD, but you'll get the hang of it.

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05/19/2014 7:18 PM

Just imported my first AutoCad.DWG into Draftsight.

I didn't have time to play with it but, it's all there.

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05/19/2014 9:23 AM

Actually, they bought Spatial Technologies which Autodesk lisenced it's geometry kernal from and had had on and off merger talks with for years. When Autodesk decided they were going to try to sue about Solidwork's ability to import and export perfect DXF and DWG files Solidworks solved the problem by simply walking into Spatial's HQ with a metric buttload of cash. Now Dassault gets a chunk of every seat of Autocad sold and Autodesk is is livid about it. Dassault doesn't use it for anything. They have their own kernal they use. it was nothing but a means to crap in Autodesk's wheaties. Draftsight is another one. The idea is to make it such that people who buy solidworks seats don't have to buy Autcad LT or something to do things like schematics or simple 2d work with. Lesson to Autodesk,,,Don't want nothin don't start nothin...

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05/19/2014 9:49 AM

That was just one battle..... but typical.

Back in the mid- 90's there was a third party program called CIMlogix or CIMlogics???? that did electrical schematics as well as sheet metal Solids and unfolding.

As I understand it, Solidworks bought them and I believe integrated into their software and discontinued Autodesk altogether....... but with the amount of AutoCAD users, they did bring it back under another name..........

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05/16/2014 6:01 PM

I just loaded DoubleCAD XT 5 a week or so ago.

It looks much like the AutoCAD LT I have, and has most of the features I use.

It's free, but they have a pro version.

I have not used it enough to give it a recommendation, but I think it's worth a look.

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05/17/2014 4:33 AM

BruceFlorida has it right. Draftsight from Dassault Systemes is better than AutoCAD LT. All your existing AutoCAD files will be accessible and no learning is necessary.

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05/17/2014 9:47 AM

Dassault Systems? Solidworks assault on Autodesk. That makes sense.

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05/17/2014 6:02 AM

Just my opinion. I started using AutoCAD at work years ago, and wanted something cheap for personal use, so I bought a copy of TurboCAD. I still have to use AutoCAD at work: and hate it.

Having said that DoubleCAD made by the same people as TurboCAD is free and is designed to look just like AutoCAD LT.

You can get old versions of TurboCAD deluxe at very reasonable prices (not the pro version its getting to silly money like some of the other packages aimed at people with more money than sense). From your original post, I'm sure that an old version would meet all your requirements.

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05/18/2014 1:20 AM

I hate to be the one odd ball, but I thoroughly love my AutoCAD 2012 LT.

It draws what i want and it does it fast. I have had little or no trouble. YES, its very spendy and moving into the 3D versions is $5,000 easily.

But the LT version works well. I tried Turbo and Solid and just could not get the swing of it. then again, i am NOT drawing the exact stuff you guys are....

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05/19/2014 2:30 AM

Hi, Netmaker:

I checked DraughtSite: £200 - with support: £400. AutoCAD Lt, with support: £517.50

Money talks and, Autodesk have had it too good for too long. ...about time they wise up, get real and compete.

Progecad, a full-blown 3-D package, again for around £200 - need I say more?

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05/19/2014 9:29 AM

Netmaker, Download draftsight and play with it, you'll be pleasantly surprised. Trust me.... Have I ever steered you wrong?

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05/19/2014 10:41 AM

"Trust me.... Have I ever steered you wrong?"

I've been here long enough and read your posts to know you bean this without irony.

However, most people who use that line tend to be the untrustworthy types who ARE trying to steer someone wrong.

I trust you because from what I've seen, you're a Good Guy (well, as good as anyone can be on the internet, this place seems to turn everyone into snarky so-and-sos at times, myself included) and I agree wholeheartedly with your advice.

(self-identifying as off-topic because I'm talking mor about one phrase than about AutoCAD replacements.)

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Re: AutoCad LT Replacement

05/19/2014 8:24 AM

While I work exclusively in Solidworks, our guys who used to work in Autocad have transitioned to Draftsight and like it. As the others have said, the transition is pretty smoothe, the product itself seems pretty glitch-free (we use it mostly for facility-planning) and the price is right!

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05/19/2014 9:17 AM

Thanks to all for your feedback and suggestions (and netmaker, I concur with your experience and haven't had issue with using AutoCAD LT, just concerned with the upgrade cost versus the budget).

Looks like I can go harass our IT person and have him load a couple of these onto my pc so I can try them (they lock our business systems to keep people from getting into the works and "modifying" things - not that I would do such a thing). Regards to all.

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