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Average Compaction Factor for Florida Limerock

06/04/2014 1:56 PM

I have searched the internet (mostly because I believe everything I read there) for an average compaction factor for limerock. None of the charts I was able to find agreed, and some were wildly different (further proof that it's all true).

In an effort to validate a contractor's claim for material, I am going to take core samples, do the math, and determine how many yards of material were delivered.

I need to know the compaction factor (shrinkage due to compacting) so that I can work back to delivered loose material.

Anyone have any first hand knowledge here?

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Re: Average compaction factor for Florida limerock

06/04/2014 2:10 PM

Measure the volume and weight of the core samples, then measure the volume and weight of a representative amount of loose fill.

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Re: Average Compaction Factor for Florida Limerock

06/04/2014 3:10 PM

No first hand knowledge here but TINAC ..... is probably the best response....

there were studies done (1.2. Objective - page 3) and in Florida...

,...... but a lot has to do with the particle size and amount of fines..........

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06/04/2014 3:37 PM

sounds like a waste of money. what could possibly go wrong?

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06/04/2014 5:22 PM
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06/04/2014 5:32 PM

Copycat .......Blah blah blah.....

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06/04/2014 7:47 PM

Already read that one....and Blah, blah, blah is correct...

A for effort though for you and Mr. 911.

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06/04/2014 10:42 PM

I thought that guy(Jack Banning, President, Florida Limerock & Aggregate Institute) might provide a lead....If it goes that far...

Florida Limerock And Aggregate Institute

1007 DESOTO PARK DR STE 100,Tallahassee, FL 32301-4555

850-942-0781

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06/04/2014 11:09 PM

Have you tried contacting the geology dept. at the University of Florida at Gainesville, FL? http://web.geology.ufl.edu/ There are many limerock and phosphate mines/quarries and processing plants in mid Florida and over by the Plant City area.

Try this search https://www.google.com/search?rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&biw=1199&bih=533&q=geology+depts+of+universities+and+colleges+of+florida&nfpr=1&sa=X&ei=bd6PU-GxKMmQqgaZvYHIDw&ved=0CB4QvgUoAQ.

Semi-local geology depts. would probably be your source of the best unbiased information.

Good Luck, Old Salt

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06/06/2014 9:55 AM

There's a couple of ways that you can use to determine how much material was placed. The first question I'm going to ask you is: Did this construction project have a PROJECT MANUAL prepared by an Engineer? If yes, did it contain a Technical Specification section detailing how EARTHWORK is to be preformed?

Typically, minimum Earthwork material compaction limits are specified, based either on Standard Proctor or Modified Proctor Density tests. The specifications may have included a subsection the detailed that the material supplier provide "Batch Tickets" for every truck load of soil. The General Contractor is usually required to produce copies of each Batch Ticket stating the volume and weight of the material.

Secondly, if you know the existing and finish topographies then you can determine the Gross Volume of material placed, in Cubic Feet or Cubic Yards. You should have a certified Independent Material Testing Agency conduct a number of soil borings, the quantity of which will be dictated by the specifications. The agency should record the in-situ soil gradations, densities, and void ratios, as well as any other parameter that is specified.

If you know the total gross volume of material based on topographic differences, the placed densities, and the void ratio then you can determine the actual material placed. Simple math.

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06/06/2014 10:14 AM

haven't heard you in a while Cap...... excellent input.

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06/06/2014 10:40 AM

I've been fairly busy lately, and the content has been somewhat "lacking" here in CR4 for some time....

I'll pop in from time-to-time to see what's up, or down.

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