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Thermocouple Cable

06/06/2014 4:47 AM

CAN WE USED K TYPE COMPENSAING CABLE FOR S TYPE THERMOCOUPLE?

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Re: THERMOCOUPLE CABLE

06/06/2014 5:31 AM

Depends whether or not you want to read the correct temperature.

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06/06/2014 6:40 AM

What will be the temperature difference in case or can I calculate permanent error in such case & feed the same value in transmitter for compensating.

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06/06/2014 6:42 AM

Why don't you just use the right cable and be done with it?

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06/06/2014 6:45 AM

You can't just calculate a number & apply it as a correction factor - it depends on the temperatures of all the junctions between dissimilar metals.

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06/06/2014 6:40 AM

It also depends on whether we have got any to use and the bit that we have got is long enough.

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06/06/2014 7:10 AM

No.

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Re: THERMOCOUPLE CABLE

06/06/2014 8:48 AM

No. It is called a 'K-type compensating cable' for a reason. Were it to work with S-type thermocouples, why then would they call it a 'K-type compensating cable.' The name is a clue as to its intended purpose.

But! If you decide to use it anyway, you can save yourself some money and use doorbell wire instead. It's much cheaper whilst also giving you incorrect readings.

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06/07/2014 12:23 PM

Does the processor have the ability to embed a lookup table? (Which would then need to be created.)

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06/07/2014 5:51 PM

Type R or S thermocouple extension wire consists of a copper wire and a copper alloy wire since it would be prohibitively expensive to use platinum for extension wires.

The extension wire is actually compensating cable, designed to have the same EMF gradient characteristic at (relatively) low temperatures as either an R or S thermocouple.

The positive leg is pure copper and the negative leg is alloy #11, primarily copper, 97% copper with a balance of 3% Ni/Mn. It is a relatively inexpensive wire and can be used in environments up to approximately 204ºC.

In the absence of the correct Type S compensating wire, there is no means of determining the error created by the junction of K wire and the S thermocouple, so there's nothing to 'look-up' and correct for.

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06/09/2014 11:51 PM

Well put Iris, GA

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06/10/2014 12:14 AM

Regardless of what the cumulative sum of junctions is, one could measure actual temperatures versus recorded temperatures, and create a lookup table. In many cases, a simple offset would probably adjust adequately for temperatures in the range of interest, such as near a setpoint.

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06/10/2014 12:46 AM

Thanks Iris for detailed explanation.

Now the mistake had happened in the past & I have to resolve for which simply I have to go for the option of buying new s type cable.

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06/12/2014 11:19 AM

Go away and spend the money, then.

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