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Correct Pressure Tap Location for Diaphragm-Sealed FT

06/20/2014 8:42 AM

We have two DIAPHRAGM-SEALED DP Flow-meters which shall be installed on the lines with the following spec.:


Line# 1:
Service type = Sour Gas / Design Press. = 14 barg / Design Temp. range = 2 to 85°C / Oper. Press. = 8 barg / Oper. Temp. range = 50.8/50.8 °C (min/Max)

Line #2:
Service type = Sour Gas / Design Press. = 82 barg / Design Temp. range = -8.8 to 85 °C / Oper. Press. = 66.8 barg / Oper. Temp. range = 25/25 °C (min/Max)

The problem is that all the pressure taps (both upstream and downstream) are located on the sides of the flanges (180° horizontal - which is suitable for liquid service. As we know, the pressure taps location for gas service should be on the top of line. We are requested to change the tap pressure location.

But I think it's not necessary to do that just because both the instruments are of DIAPHRAGM-SEALED type.

Am I right? If whatever I believe is correct, is there any related standard or de-facto to be referenced?

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Re: Correct pressure tap location for diaphragm-sealed FT

06/20/2014 8:52 AM

The correct location has nothing to do with the seals, and everything to do with making sure no liquid of any sort gets into the tapping lines - gravity assist technology works wonders.

Next time, consider a lless troublesome solution such as vortex-shedding or thermal flowmeters instead.

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Re: Correct pressure tap location for diaphragm-sealed FT

06/20/2014 11:05 AM

Thanks for answering the question.


So you mean as the DP FTs I am talking about are of diaphragm sealed type, it makes no difference where their upstream and downstream pressure taps are located on the pipe.

Do I correctly get whatever you said?

If yes, I do agree with you. Would you please introduce some standards or texts as reference? I couldn't find anything.

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06/20/2014 4:19 PM

She said "put the connections on the top of the pipe so that liquid drains from the impulse lines", Boss.

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06/20/2014 11:17 AM

Suggest consulting your instrument engineer, operator's manual, manufacturer's web site or calling them directly.

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06/20/2014 12:15 PM

Thank you Lyn, but I am the instrument engineer! :)

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06/20/2014 4:20 PM

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06/21/2014 4:37 PM

Suggest consulting your process engineer, piping engineer, An experienced operator, the operator's manual, manufacturer's web site or calling them directly.

Other suggestions come to mind also.

I'd be happy to PM those to you, if you'd like.

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06/20/2014 3:44 PM

> pressure taps (both upstream and downstream) are located on the sides of the flanges (180° horizontal)

I don't understand where that tap is.

If looking down the center hole in the pipe, is the flange at a tangent at 3 o'clock (vertical flange face)?

or at what clock position is the flange at a tangent to the pipe wall?

Regardless, I think your initial assessment is correct, the purpose for specifying the tap locations for impulse lines is to prevent the impulse line from filling with condensate/liquid in gas service.

An impulse line with accumulated condensate/liquid will create a head pressure error on that line.But diaphragm seals will keep any process condensate/liquid out of the capillary tubing.

Any accumulation of process condensate/liquid in the line at the diaphragm seal will create some head pressure error in that impulse line, but presumably any such liquid is temporary and will move along in the fluid flow; after all, the assumption of DP flow measurement is a single phase fluid, not a 2 phase liquid/gas fluid, right?

If the flanges are tangent at 6 o'clock and condensate/liquid could pool in flange pocket, then you'd be justified pursuing a change in the orientation of the flanges.

API 551, covers diaphragms seals in 6.3 but is barely a page and half long. It mentions keeping capillary lengths the same and steps to avoid temperature gradients along the capillaries. I'm not aware of other standards, but that's not definitive statement on whether such are out there or not.

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