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Pressure Filling Water Sprinkler System

08/20/2014 5:39 AM

I work in a plant where the ware house is protected by wet sprinkler system. there is a rupture so we cannot fill from the normal route, the alternative is to fill from the fire brigade inlet valve, all attempts to fill it even after applying a pressure of 8 bar has proved abortive. A closer examination revealed a check valve that would stop the inflow of water, i thought of reversing but comparing with the other inlet valves in the station reveal that it is correct. my question is does any one have a design for relationship between the fire brigade inlet valve and the check valve between it and the system?

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Re: pressure filling water sprinkler system

08/20/2014 5:45 AM

Fix the rupture without further delay.

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Re: Pressure Filling Water Sprinkler System

08/20/2014 1:54 PM

Why is the rupture not being addressed? Where is the rupture?

If the rupture is in your sprinkler system. Why would you be trying to put water to it. Unless the buildings on fire! Then wouldn't a call to the fire department be more appropriate then posting here.

Now if it's not the sprinkler system then the utility line feeding the building. Around here this is all potable water. So what your saying you have no water for employees to drink or for sanitation in your restrooms. Better rethink your priorities and get on the phone with the utility company. Around here if you can't provide these facilities for your employees you close the doors.

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Re: Pressure Filling Water Sprinkler System

08/20/2014 2:51 PM

It sounds like the fire department connection has been improperly installed.

There SHOULD be a check valve in that line...designed to keep the sprinkler system from draining out of the fire department connection (spelled AUTOSPKR) when the caps are removed.

Your examination and comparison with the other valves in the station has not proven you are correct...it has proven that whoever installed the system didn't understand what an arrow on a check valve means.

The arrow should point toward the sprinkler system, not the FDC.

Oh, by the way....fix the rupture first.

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Re: Pressure Filling Water Sprinkler System

08/20/2014 11:19 PM

Fixing the leak is the most expedient, cheapest, and quickest way to get the system back up. On the outside of your building wall there is a Fire Dept. Connection (FDC). There can be as few as 2 ea 2-1/2" female fire dept fittings on it or as many as 12 or more depending upon the size of your sprinkler system. On the other side of the wall is a big check valve of the same or bigger size as the pipe coming in from the FDC. This keeps the pressure from leaking out through the FDC, keeps the water in the piping from leaking back into the water supply that people drink from and a couple other things.

There are usually one or two other check valves in the system. The only way to get past them would be to open one up and wedge it open. This isn't effective because you would have to open it up to get the wedge out and then all the water comes out.

In short, you can't do what you want to. It is physically impossible. You can't defeat a check valve without taking the cover, if so equipped, without letting all the water out. Also the piping is black iron pipe, it rusts tremendously, and becomes extremely dirty. You don't want to get all that junk in the check valves and the operating controls of the sprinkler system. That will really screw things up.

Besides all this, if a fire occurs while the system is down for repairs your insurance company will drop you and not make any payments. The local fire inspector will also fine you big bucks if he sees it down or more if he sees what you are doing. So do you want to lose the building and all the money because the very cheap sprinkler was out of service?

As said before, repairing the system is the most expedient, cheapest, and quickest way to get the system back up.

Good Luck, Old Salt

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Re: Pressure Filling Water Sprinkler System

08/22/2014 1:54 PM

If you have a wet system and the rupture is outside the plant, there should still be pressure in the system. If it is in the sprinkler system, fix the leak and obtain the services of sprinkler experts. There are procedures involving check, flow and alarm valves that should not be "messed with" by unqualified persons. Think about explaining to your insurance carrier that the system did not function because YOU thought that you fixed it.

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