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Spacing Between Equipment In Gas Processing Plants

09/23/2014 3:16 AM

Is there any calculation or there are design practices to maintain minimum distance between equipments in Gas Processing Plants and if these are design practices then why not considered in skid mounted packages. In skids pumps, coolers, vessels, heat exchangers are modeled and mounted very closer and not considered safe distances

. My question is which standard used is in designing skid packages like Condensate Stabilization Unit, Amine Sweetening Unit, Dehydration TEG, LPG Recovery Units, etc.

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Re: SPACING BETWEEN EQUIPMENTS IN GAS PROCESSING PLANTS

09/23/2014 4:12 AM

I doubt that any one standard or code will cover this. For electrical cabinets, there are standards for clear space in front. On a skid, if all serviceable parts face outward, little or no internal clearance will be needed. Manufacturers will usually tell how much clearance is needed for removing pistons, filter elements, etc. Safety standards may dictate the width of walkways between pieces of equipment. And so on. You will probably need to combine several sources of information.

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09/23/2014 5:44 AM

Ease in maintenance, operability is necessary requirement and not too much space is required but safe distances is separate thing and why we have to consider this in processing plants and not in skid packages.

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09/23/2014 5:47 AM

You need a tour of duty in a submarine.

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09/23/2014 6:20 AM

Ease in maintenance, operability is necessary requirement and not too much space is required...................................

Speaking as someone who has had the joy of working on something that had not to much space is required I'm calling BULL S&%T!!

Ever tried to pull a 500 HP motor from someplace that someone who has never pulled a wrench in his/her life drew up and said build it and send it and never a thought to the guys in the field that have to deal with an under engineered POS just cause it looked good on paper and was cheap!!!

Give us a break and build it so it can BE maintained!!

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09/23/2014 6:29 AM

You too.

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09/24/2014 9:22 AM

Exactly.

As a rough rule of thumb, look at all the appropriate codes/manuals to find the largest clearance required from each side/end, then take that and add 20%. When the bean counters complain, you 'compromise' by falling back to 10% over, but tell them that reduction will likely increase the length of downtime by 30-50% as the equipment will not have room to install/remove larger components easily.

If you're in the US, then I'd go with +50%/+30%, and the reason for not going further is that it could lead to fines if an OSHA inspector is unhappy with the spacing.

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09/23/2014 4:39 AM

Try with API 2510 (Point 5.1.2) and API 752 chapter 6.
May be there is the answer to your question.
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09/23/2014 8:36 PM

Skid planning, design and troubleshooting are the skills being offered by major engineering firms.

There is no single "calculation" or "design practice" that will teach you this. Properly designed gas process skids involve a variety of engineering skills including mechanical, electrical, structural and instrumentation specialties.

http://www.worleyparsons.com/CSG/Hydrocarbons/SpecialtyCapabilities/Documents/Gas_Processing_Brochure.pdf

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09/24/2014 9:27 AM

What is this 'skid planning'? Are we talking about building modules on - for lack of a better analogy - big metal shipping pallets? I guess that could lead to more flexibility in the plant, as you move modular units around to reconfigure for this or that. But even then, you'd need access to the 'interior components' for maintenance, unless 'maintenance' means pulling an entire skid into the shop and disassembling it for routine work.

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Re: Spacing Between Equipment In Gas Processing Plants

09/25/2014 8:15 AM

Refer to NFPA Fire Code #1 - from there on you can get number f cross referenced doc say API 2510 etc. HAZOP / HAZID studies would help you get to correct / revise after through exercises.

Kindly remember that local jurisdictional laws prevail over these code provisions unless otherwise the operator states so.

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