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Motor Contribution Through Delta/Star Transformer

10/14/2014 11:22 PM

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if I have a delta (primary) / star (secondary) connected transformer and experience an earth fault on the primary, will motor current feedback from the secondary side through to the primary side for that earth fault?

Similarly, for a phase fault, will motors feedback to the primary from the secondary?

I know the answer is no for the first scenario and yes for the second, but was hoping someone could explain why. I've spent hours googling for no result.

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Re: Motor contribution through delta/star transformer

10/15/2014 1:54 AM

Hi!

Based on my experience, when transformers have winding connections with Delta/Star, the motor loads won't affect much on the asymmetrical short-circuit currents. However, if a symmetrical fault like three phase short-circuit occurs, the motors will contribute to the short-circuit currents. You could check out the problem here http://www.psa-outline.com/

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Re: Motor Contribution Through Delta/Star Transformer

10/15/2014 8:17 AM

Thanks for the response... can anyone explain why?

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10/15/2014 9:22 AM

The delta side of the transformer, having no direct connection to ground (no Neutral or Wye point connected to ground) has no path for a ground fault current to flow. If no path, then no current. When the first fault to ground occurs on a phase of the primary, all that happens is that it establishes a voltage reference for all the phases, based on that one being at ground potential. It's only a second fault to ground that then completes a circuit and you have a REAL ground fault. Note that this assumes that nowhere on the delta primary feeding the transformer is there a connection to ground in the first place (such as a wye secondary on the upstream transformer feeding the delta on yours)! Otherwise the first ground would complete a circuit and fault current would flow.

That's the principle used in delta distribution systems, usually in older industrial plants. There was no direct ground connection, so the first short to ground wouldn't bring all the motors, etc., to a halt. There would be a ground detection system that lights a flasher, rings a bell, sounds a horn, or something, so that maintenance people could track down the fault before a second one happened (and the smoke came out!).

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Re: Motor Contribution Through Delta/Star Transformer

10/16/2014 1:07 AM

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Re: Motor Contribution Through Delta/Star Transformer

11/03/2014 9:34 AM

The first earth fault on the primary will establish the voltage reference for the other two primary phases. The second earth fault on the primary will take out the overcurrent protection devices, at which point the secondary will de-energise as well.

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