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Seal Bearing or Not?

12/01/2014 6:42 AM

Hello you all...

Another question that no one around me want to answer with certitude, How can I find out if a Baldor motor is built with seal bearing or not?

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Re: Seal Bearing Or Not?

12/01/2014 7:22 AM

Um... Ask Baldor?

Everything about what was ordered is encoded in the catalog number or can be referenced by the serial number. If your question was in general with regard to ANY motor made by Baldor, then the answer is, "Only if someone ordered it that way".

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12/01/2014 7:23 AM

If Mum, Dad, sister or brother will not answer the question and no-one else from the wider familiy knows, and in school it is still too early for it and while it never occured to you to ask the manufacturer I still recommend to check with someone from http://www.baldor.com/

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12/01/2014 7:51 AM

at least try to consult manuals. A blown assembly drawing should be there in the maintenance manual

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12/01/2014 7:56 AM

Disassemble it and inspect the bearings.

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12/01/2014 8:31 AM

The bearing numbers are often listed on the motor nameplate.

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12/01/2014 9:03 AM

Hey, Tornado

You are right the are (6313 at D.E and 6312 at opp or vice versa) and it also mention the type of grease Polyrex EM, but the alemite port at the drive end is plug with a slotted plug which is impossible to removed, I have to say that the motor has been manufacturer in 2012. Obviously I will check on the web tomorrow. I do not have the number with me now.

Thank you for your answer.

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12/01/2014 9:14 AM

Seals are often indicated by letter suffixes. If the motor came with unsealed bearings, it would have grease zerks, hence also the listing of grease type. But later, if someone had only a sealed replacement bearing on hand, they could use it and plug the port; or vice versa.

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12/02/2014 5:27 AM

Sealed bearings have ZZ marked after their no. Like 6313ZZ which means it is sealed. If ZZ mark is not there then it is not sealed bearing.

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12/02/2014 4:11 PM

ZZ is a bearing sealed on both sides.

Some bearings are only sealed on one side if I remember correctly and will therefore have only one "Z".

Some have plastic seals and some have metal seals....That is also encoded in the number.....

The OP needs to get the data from a bearing manufacturer. Something like this might help him further:-

Ball and Roller Bearings from NTN

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12/02/2014 5:55 PM

A sealed bearing and a shielded bearing are not the same,and have a different suffix.

A sealed bearing has a rubber contact seal,whereas a shielded bearing has a metal

shield that does not actually contact the inner race shoulder.

Sealed have more rotational friction, and are normally used in relatively lower rpm

applications.

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12/01/2014 8:47 AM

Thank you to all the smart "Gurus" but I already knew all theses answers, I am hoping for a simple answer, as example, something like if the tenth digit is a "P" mean permanent. Maybe there is somebody out there who really know what he is talking about.

Thank you for the effort, any way

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12/01/2014 11:20 AM

Baldour does. Pick up the bloody phone, and talk to them!

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12/01/2014 7:59 PM

Was that why your question was so impermeable?

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12/01/2014 9:55 PM

Thanks lot IdeaSmith this will be very useful for me.

I will use the tip, really appreciate. I am sure you would understand, been polyglot sometime it is not as easy as other might think...

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12/02/2014 12:32 AM

I had to google "Polyglot".

I am at a loss now!

I am apparently not polyglot.

Nevermind!

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12/02/2014 7:49 AM

Already knew all the answers and looking for a simple answer that you can understand? Makes me wonder if you can comprehend what any of us are talking about.

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12/02/2014 8:04 AM

I've literally seen with my own Four Eyes, a (Brand Name Removed) motor with sealed bearings and grease zerks...... Go figure.

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12/02/2014 9:17 PM

Go away alien!

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12/02/2014 9:08 AM

There are quite a few different types of ball bearings:

Sealed,shielded,and shielded and sealed are just a few.

Of these,there are one-side shielded,or sealed,or both sides .

A shielded bearing has metal faces,and is designed to keep debris out,but not to keep grease in.Typically used in small electric motors.

A sealed bearing is designed to keep grease in.

A sealed and shielded bearing does both,such as in a gear box output shaft with oil on one side of the bearing,atmosphere on the other.

Rubber sealed bearing normally have a PP suffix,or NPP (If Neoprene seal material),if both sides are sealed,or simply P if only one side is sealed.

Shielded bearings usually have a Z or ZZ suffix.

There are also suffixes for clearance,noise,etc.

These suffixes appear to be the same across all manufacturers.

I suggest you get a bearing catalog and learn the differences.

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12/02/2014 10:28 AM

You probably have a lot of questions with basic answers. And that's why no one around you want to answer with "certitude".

Work around a bit instead of throwing questions.

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