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Low Condenser Vacuum In 110MW Coal Based Thermal Power Plant

12/08/2014 9:30 PM

friends, we have one number starting ejector and two main ejectors (left & right ) to creat vacuum in 110 MW unit.

my problem is that we have to keep starting ejector in service always even on load. when we take starting ejector out of service the vacuum starts dropping .

following are the parameters on machine.

Load 101MW

LP Gland sealing pressure and temperature 0.158Kg/cm2 & 259 C

hotwell temp. 53

CW inlet/outlet temp. 25.94/37,38,37,34

PRDS pressure & temp. 12.5 to 13.7 kg/cm2 & 270 C

while retaking of unit the only starting ejector was taken and vacuum was 0.73kg/cm2

then we took left side of main ejector (starting out of service) the vacuum was 0.78

only Right side ejector vacuum 0.77 to 0.78

only main ejector(left + right side) vacuum was 0.88

on rolloing up to 1000 rpm it remained 0.92

we have taken following measure to reduce condenser loading and checks.

diapharagm of LP turbine checked found ok

ejector sealing ok

drains of heaters ok

cw flow was increased by taking stand by CW but no effect was there

extraction sealing ok

Gland steam condenser to condenser drain closed

Flash tank to condenser drain is open

HP sealing drip was routed to LP heaters

expender drip taken to deaerator

every thing which is possible and connected to vacuum system has been checked

can any one help in this regard

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Re: Low Condenser Vacuum In 110MW Coal Based Thermal Power Plant

12/09/2014 8:18 AM

It's hard to visualized the system. Kindly post schematic diagrams of the cycle.

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Re: Low Condenser Vacuum In 110MW Coal Based Thermal Power Plant

12/09/2014 10:15 AM

You have developed additional leaks into your condenser system. Keeping the startup ejector running is a common solution.

Consider contraction with vendors who offer helium leak detection services. Tell your boss that this technique may not always find the leak.

https://www.chem.agilent.com/Library/applications/leak-testing-steam-turbine-condensers-application.pdf

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Re: Low Condenser Vacuum In 110MW Coal Based Thermal Power Plant

12/09/2014 2:49 PM

Stop all the leaks of non condensibles into your condenser.

Reduce your condenser temperature.

That's it.

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Re: Low Condenser Vacuum In 110MW Coal Based Thermal Power Plant

12/10/2014 3:32 AM

Dear Mr.shad11,

You have not referred about Steam Condition. The Turbine is designed for a particular Heat Drop per Kg. of Steam, and if it is less the Heat rejected to the condenser will be more and hence vaccuum will be less. Pl. check this also.

Certainly Air Ingress in to the condenser could be another reason.

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Re: Low Condenser Vacuum In 110MW Coal Based Thermal Power Plant

12/10/2014 11:43 AM

Are you absolutely sure about those pressure units? 0.158 Kg(f)/cm2 is 1580 Kg(f)/m2, 2.25 psig, or 15.5 kPa. That would imply a saturation temperature of ~54 °C. But you show a much higher temperature on the gland seal, and maybe that is OK. Cooling water temperaturs seem OK to me. Condenser air ingress is the root cause most likely when needing more ejector capacity.

Your units of pressure, I am totally unused to, as these are not the standard SI (or English) units, but I understand them, and they seem OK to me. Your vacuum seems to be OK during roll-up, and that makes sense. It appears to me you are running too hot (too much) steam supply to the LP gland seals, as that temperature appears a bit high. Your cooling water is fine, but you may have a somewhat fouled condenser with this high difference between cooling water exit temperature and the hotwell temperature. There can be a number of reasons for this, but if this is a recent problem, you can rule out condenser design as root cause of air-binding of the tubes.

Assuming none of the condenser tubes are air-bound (the condenser can completely expell air), then you would expect good heat transfer. Your condenser is possibly bio-fouled or scaled heavily with mineral scale. More than likely, if there has recently been a turbine overhaul (last few months), and you cannot get "good" vacuum, and low residual gases such as oxygen, then there is a leak on a pipe somewhere, probably under the turbine where you least expect to find it.

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