I like most of the quotable quotes on CR 4 site. Can I use any search engine to look up by using a few words in the quotes? Say for example "Ability" or "PERPLEXITY "to look for specific quotes using word ABILITY or PERPLEXITY
When you scroll down bottom of page, you see an 'inspirational quote'. Sounds fairly good, and it refreshes each time.....
CR4 import this from someplace else ( I once asked). The one by Lance Armstrong is priceless - some bull about integrity and how hard work pays off. Considering his background, that's more than close to vomit point.
I'll retract if wrong, but he's a lying, cheating, bullying piece of ****. Few 'sportsmen' come as low as he. Not seen it for a while, but he is reakl scum. Mr Armstrong is very much free to sue me for that. Bit hard when you haven't a leg to stand on.
That's not CR4's fault, it's just some 'bulk buy'. CR4 might do good to let whoever know and get Mr Armstrong's inspiritataional quoutes deleted. 'Lie cheat and bully, it's the way to go.'. He didn't quite say that, it was something like' 'I'm a person to aspire to'. Yeah, and I'd let my kids go play rounders with Adlof. Eesh. Nobody on CR4 has spotted that one yet.
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The links good, could even be true, but the very last sentence says it right:-
None of that excuses Armstrong's behavior, especially outside of the races. But it is clear Armstrong wasn't alone. He was just better at it than anybody else.
Perfectly said.....he got his "come uppances!"
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I get the whole hate on cheating thing but,using your own blood doesn't seem nearly as egregious as those in sport that use drugs.Armstrong got his lifetime ban and plenty of embarrassment, not to mention the loss of millions. what I don;t get is why some people want to beat on him endlessly. I guess its cultural. we forgive people that fess up and try to move on over here. you might consider the value in that
There's a mass of info out there, and I guess we could argue the whole case forever. Majority of stuff I've watched or read paints a pretty unflatering picture. The overiding (forgive the pun) impression I got is of a very manipulating and bullying character.
Seems fair to me he should get some public roasting after having dined on years of fraud.
He's far from the only, though he very much wanted the world to know about him. Not as a sporting fraud/cheat but, hey, he entered that devils pact.
This has all (maybe my fault for mentioning him) gone a bit beyond CR4's scope. His grip on reality seems a bit vague, so not much chance of any message of meaning sinking in with him. I'm sure he's a lovely guy.
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That second option is 'to continue to try ban it'. If money or fame are involved, somebody will always try to cheat,and they'll always find a way. When doping isn't enough, they'll try other means (remember the Russian fencers who got caught at the Olymics one year ? - small wire on the end of the sword ro register a 'contact')
Maybe doping could be legalized. If people are stupid enough to take whatever health risks, let them go ahead with the provizo that it's declared on their 'achievment'.
Doing good things in sport may be a noble aim, but somebody will always cheat. That's even if we can define cheating....some bloke got outed for competing in a wheelchair Olymic sport. Guess what...yep, he had full use of his legs. Is that 'cheating' ? I'm not totally sure, but he could have at least had the decency to declare his position and argue his right to compete.
No link to hand, but during one of the 20th C Marathons (I think London OLymics), one of the lead runners was found to have simply jumped on a public bus for most of the route. I find that pretty funny, but maybe wouldn't have at the time.
Outside of the elite sporting stars world, cheating is own dellusional reward. Not that many, percent-wise, make the big bucks.
I could run a similar argument for legalizing all and any drugs. The problem is not people taking drugs, it's people feeling the need to take drugs. Society has flopped if people prefer to just get zonked. Not that I'm having a bash - I don't even know what Friday night is ! More serious, one persons 'merry' is anothers persons' hmm' is another persons ' holy cow that person has a problem'. Athletes who use proscribed drugs are on that scale somewhere.
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I come from an era when dopers smoked pot. I'm guilty as sin of that.
Maybe that's why I never aspired to with bicycle races.
Besides, once after playing a gig in southern AZ, I got some photos developed that I had taken on the way back to Phoenix. (Yes, that long ago) I had no clue where I took them.
I'm not going to defend Armstrong but, America is a place where the emphasis is on winning and money.you might have more stringent self discipline then most professional athletes but their goals probably are more grand than those you set yourself. Armstrong is a cheat and a liar yes, but he also had some awesome performances that cant strictly be credited to blood doping.
He is not awesome, he is a bullying lying SOB. If I am wrong he can take me to court.
Lance Armstrong is a bullying nasty piece of ****. He has taken drugs, manipulated team mates, and should be hung out to helll. 'Scum' does not even come close.
He is not awesome.
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ok I think I'll put his poster on my wall nowArmstrong earned about $17.5 million from sponsors in 2005 alone, the year he retired after his 7th straight Tour victory, according to Sports Illustrated. Estimates put his net worth at $125 million
I don't like outright profanity, I rarely hit on people, but Mr Armstrong is a right piece of work. I'll be more than happy to take him to task and list his shortcomings. This world has people who make him look like a complete and utter ****. Numerous people are plain damn awesome - they are the real heroic folk.
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he was blood doping. not steroids, not growth hormone , not designer drugs like Bonds and Marion Jones were loaded with.is using your own blood to increase endurance cheating? yes it is but it never made him stronger or faster,how many NFL NHL players and Olympians can truly claim to be squeaky clean?
when an accomplished person falls from grace the crucifiers come out in force.the guy admitted to blood doping.
Blood doping is the practice of boosting the number of red blood cells in the bloodstream in order to enhance athletic performance. Because such blood cells carry oxygen from the lungs to the muscles, a higher concentration in the blood can improve an athlete's aerobic capacity (VO2 max) and endurance. as I said, thats cheating, but it is not steroids or growth hormone or BALCO designer drugs.you cant be a couch potato and blood dope and then go out and win the Tour next week. only elite athletes can.he admitted his wrong doing, unfortunately all the millions he's raised for cancer and other charity are overlooked.my point is still the same, he pulled off some amazing performances(with or without drugs)when money meets athletics pharmaceuticals are there.if the NFL was really tough about 1000 would be unemployed tomorrow. I don't support drug use but I'm not blind either.
I personally never liked him, he always came over as arrogant on interviews. I hate that.
I have known for many years what Blood doping is, the DDR was doing it in the 70s, before it could be identified....we here are "experts".....they even built a whole stadium with lowered air pressure....
You are obviously a fan of his, well thats fine, he needs at least one.....
Also, it appears you have NOT read the Wiki link fully either......I know it is a bit long.....I did.....
Have a great day.
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"What others say about you reveals more about them, than it does you." Anon.
I did read it all.as I said I don't support cheating or drugs but I can still be impressed by someone Else's accomplishments.you can't be a genetic wuss and take a shot of testosterone and win Mr Olympia next month. it just isn't that easy. no one wins 7 Tours without having trained for year's and having great genes.if you want to believe he's just another guy full of drugs and free of talent and his charitable work (in the millions) should be dismissed I think you're missing something. I'd also wager that whoever your sports hero's past and present have the wool pulled over your eyes.
I can tell you for sure, if one of them had been me, I would have been REALLY pissed off...BIG TIME.
So try thinking more about them and less about the arsehole Armstrong!!!
He had his chance and he blew it big time......but if you want him as your "HERO", thats fine with me, but it impresses me not for your "taste" in people.....
Which is why I am eternally grateful that you simply don't like me!!!
REALLY GREAT!!! REALLY POSITIVE!!!
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"What others say about you reveals more about them, than it does you." Anon.
As an honorable competitor, you would not have been doping and thus had every right to be pissed. However, I suspect it's quite likely that those behind may have been doping as well.
I'm replying to your comment not because of anything in particular in your comment, but to link it in with the topic of Lance Armstrong in this thread.
Yes, Armstrong cheated and deserves what he got in the end. Hopefully there's a lesson there which will help people compete more honorably (but I won't hold my breath).
But if the Armstrong haters think that the Armstrong's competitors weren't doing pretty much the same thing, you maybe fooling yourselves. The same goes with other ball players (baseball, football, soccer, you name it).
The media has no motivation to go after a 4th place winner in a race for doping or to go after a baseball player with only 125 career home runs for steroids. There's no news in it.
Years ago (I think back in the mid 1990's) I was listening to a news piece on NPR (National Public Radio) and the host mentioned a study (I have no idea the name of it as those memory cells have long since died off) of Olympic athletes. The athletes were asked if they were given the chance to take a new drug which would guarantee them of winning but would also result in a very premature death (within years) would they take it. A large majority said they would.
Now for all I know that study was crap or made up, but I would hope that the reporter would have vetted it a little bit.
Furthermore, the urge to cheat is not uniquely American. I recall something back during the cold war days regarding East Germany cheating (see here).
And more recently a Chinese gymnast was stripped of her 2000 Olympic medal for being underage by a few years (see here). The same article mentions two other Chinese gymnasts of the 2008 Beijing Olympics with a dispute in their ages. Apparently multiple sources found Chinese websites that indicated that Ms. Kexin and her teammate, Ms. Yilin were 14 years old at the Beijing Games.
I write none of this to excuse Armstrong or Americans in regards to cheating. I am trying to point out that human nature being what it is, the higher the prize (money, fame, what have you), the more likely someone is to try to get around the rules.
I'l confess, it was only 3rd hit on google (and will change very soon). Paste and search my quotline - it got me here. I have no idea where this will link will go to in a few weeks. Unless you check archives, nowhere.
Use quotation marks if you want an exact match, but that is far from telling you how to search an item. Give an example of something you cannot find (with reasons why) - I'll invest time if you take effort to explain.
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Another good source for quotes is www.wikiquote.org You can find them cateorized by topic, author, source (proverb, TV show, novel) or almost any way you want, and it's pretty friendly to searches.
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