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Straight Length Requirements for Thermowell

01/21/2015 6:27 AM

Is there any Straight length Requirement to be complied to mount TE with thermo well on pipe?

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Re: Straight Length Requirements for Thermowell

01/21/2015 7:58 AM

The mounting arrangements will be supplied with the equipment in the form of user instructions. These need to be followed to ensure the correct installation. If these are not to hand, the manufacturer may be reached by a number of methods; of them, the telephone is strongly recommended on the basis of its speed, its directness, and the interactive nature of the method of communication.

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Re: Straight Length Requirements for Thermowell

01/21/2015 8:18 AM

Keep this in mind:

The longer and skinnier the well, the better for response time and accuracy, but this would be no good if it breaks due to high flows.

The shorter and fatter it is, the stronger it is.

There is a rule of thumb is to get to the middle third of the pipe for your immersion length.

But you'd be better off if you'd confirm the design strength per ASME PTC 19.3TW-2010.

You may want to check out at SwiftyCalc

It's a free software that will provide you with a quick max insertion length and wake frequency calculation result in seconds applying the ASME 19.3TW calculation.

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Re: Straight Length Requirements for Thermowell

01/22/2015 10:32 PM

Thanks for the information..

But i am asking for straight Length on sides (Upstream & Downstream)of pipe where thermo well is mounted and not immersion length inside the dept of pipe..

As For Flow elements we have 2Xdia upstream and 1XDia Downstream.

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Re: Straight Length Requirements for Thermowell

01/21/2015 10:37 AM

On small lines, it is preferred to put the well in an elbow in order to get sufficient immersion length.

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01/21/2015 10:42 AM

Or a tee. Good point.

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Re: Straight Length Requirements for Thermowell

01/21/2015 10:21 PM

But i am asking for straight Length on sides (Upstream & Downstream)of pipe where thermo well is mounted and not immersion length inside the dept of pipe..

As For Flow elements we have 2Xdia upstream and 1XDia Downstream.

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01/22/2015 9:19 AM

That sounds like too short for any conventional flowmeter.

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Re: Straight Length Requirements for Thermowell

01/22/2015 6:38 AM

Just the opposite of a flow meter or such. In the case of a thermowell you want as much turbulence as you can get in order to avoid a temperature gradient. The suggestions above for an elbow or tee placement are the best.

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Re: Straight Length Requirements for Thermowell

01/22/2015 9:13 AM

I have always used the rule of thumb that suggests the length of a thermo-well should be 10 times its diameter.

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Re: Straight Length Requirements for Thermowell

02/01/2015 11:25 PM

All thermowell sholud install at upstream. (after flow meter)

If your flow meter required straight length 10D downstream or 5D upstream, the thermowell should installed after the 5D length. You can check AGA 9 for gas application

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Re: Straight Length Requirements for Thermowell

02/04/2015 6:46 PM

Temperature sensors do not require a "conditioned" flowstream like many flowmeters do. Long lengths of straight pipe before and after the flowmeter exist to ensure large-scale turbulence (e.g. eddies, vortices) have dissipated so they do not skew the flowmeter's accuracy. Temperature sensors don't care, therefore no straight-length requirements are necessary.

Unless . . . you are installing a thermowell near a flowmeter, in which case the thermowell itself will *generate* vortices that can affect the flowmeter's accuracy. The AGA Standard #3 in the United States is one example of a formal standard addressing this effect, where a certain minimum distance of straight pipe is required between the thermowell and the flow element (orifice plate) in order to avoid flow-measurement errors.

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