Degreasing Chemical

My first suggestion is turn your CAP LOCK OFF AND QUIT SHOUTING! You've been around long enough to know better. Second suggestion is to follow Lyn's suggestion and do your own research, being we don't know what your going to do with the steel after it's been degreased, welded, plates, painted etc.

And as always, more information is need to get better results

Ouch! Do stop SHOUTING!

Yes, I can. However, considering that I've been formulating and making them for years I'd much rather sell you the finished product and recoup some of the time and mone invested!

Yes I can. Send me a ton of $100.00 bills and I will send you the formulation.

Much more information is needed for a good recommendation. Because you know a lot more about the process than we do, follow lyn's advice and get going with a google search on the subject.

If that isn't suitable for you I can make some very good recommendations at a high $ per suggestion rate. Also first class flights, 5 star hotel accommodation, reimbursement for all expenses submitted, limousine and several other requirements. Last but not least, expenses for having a young lady or the wife accompanying me.

Good Luck, Old Salt

....hard to say without more info, but I can tell you that in hot dip galvanising plants they use an aggressively potent caustic soda and water solution to degrease steel. This is the first dip. There are different consequent dips after the initial degrease and paint strip.

CTC , Carbon Tetra Chloride is best to de grease without affecting rolling elements and oxidizing effect. easily available in market.But when grease or oil used is special type consult the supplier.

Ah yes - the good old days - when you could buy a degreaser that actually worked - that is a very difficult thing to do these days in some over regulated parts of the world.

Yes, good old days. Depending on the final coating on the steel. In the "old" days, we just used phosphoric acid to pre-clean before painting(only if not shot blasting) with std CISC primer. Actually used a concentration lower than that you will find in CocaCola. Don't recommend straight coke though as the sugar residue doesn't lend itself for top coating.

Well that is still useable with EPA watching, as we have many tons of it in tanks in the one plant here, for stainless steel. My Grandfather used Coca Cola, like it was WD-40, to loosen rusted nuts. Back in his days, Coca Cola had quite a bit more syrup in the carbonated water than now.

We used to use TCE when I first started this job. Our customers, pharmaceutical industries, convinced us to stop that many many years ago, before EPA rules stopped us - they don't like the old chlorinated hydrocarbons either. All our current degreasers are "green" and water soluble. We tend to use a lot of energy as heat with these solutions, so how green are they really?

What about Coke ZERO no sugar but some sugar substitute, which may or may not be better.

Still watered way down compared to what was around in the 1950's. Even with the sugar (and yes, it was sugar then - not corn syrup) it did a fine job of loosening rusted bolts/nuts. About the only way to get it like that now is find a restaurant that still has a soda fountain and buy some concentrated Coca Cola syrup off them.

CTC is now a banned item. Not recommended because of ozone depletion properties.

New Zealand Qualifications Authority 2015:

Chemicals used for degreasing are identified and described in terms of strengths and temperature in accordance with procedures.

Range may include but are not limited to - alkali, acid, surfactant.

1.2 Degreasing process is described in terms of the processing time for different types of contaminant.

Range contaminant types may include but are not limited to - merchant painted tube, grease, anti-spatter.

1.3 Causes of degreasing faults are identified on components.

Range causes - paint, anti-spatter, grease.

1.4 Degreasing is described in terms of the requirements for double-end dipping.

1.5 The process of checking fabricated components before degreasing is explained in terms of venting and drainage requirements.

Range components include but are not limited to - sealed hollow sections, overlapping sealed sections, welded plates, internally vented and drained.

1.6 Factors affecting degreasing efficiency are described.

Range includes - strength of solution, immersion time;

may include - temperature.

Element 2

Degrease metal components at a hot dip galvanizing facility.

Performance criteria

2.1 Hazards of the degreasing process are identified and controlled in accordance with legislative requirements and company procedures.

Range hazards may include but are not limited to - crane operation, chemical splash, steam, load instability, obstructions, personal injury.

2.2 Hazards of components to be degreased are identified and controlled in accordance with company procedures.

Range quality of venting and drainage, fixing, balance.

2.3 Jig and components are lifted and moved to degreasing bath, immersed, and supported in degreasing solution in accordance with company procedures.

Range components - solid, plate, hollow, fabricated.

2.4 Jig and components are removed from degreasing solution and visually inspected for quality of degreasing, drainage, and venting in accordance with company procedures.

Range inspection may include but is not limited to - hole size, paint, anti-spatter, grease.

2.5 Any drainage, venting, and degreasing faults are remedied in accordance with company procedures.

2.6 Components are completely drained before transferring to the next process in accordance with company procedures.

2.7 Where applicable, residue is removed from degreasing tank surface prior to and after removal of components in accordance with company procedures.

WP

I suggest doing research. Maybe calling a chemical company would be one suggestion.

1,1,1-Trichloroethylene. Oh, wait. You can't buy that anymore.

I remember when our degreaser was changed to the more familiar 1,1,1-Trichloroethane that it didn't degrease as quickly.

Both are fairly nasty and have to handled with care, use proper hoods/ventilation and all that good stuff. It must be properly disposed of because it can contaminate ground water.

One of my tasks on the night shift many, many years ago was to dispose of a witches brew of mixed solvents, TCE, MEK, methylene chloride, toluene, acetone, and some IPA all went onto the ground from our 5 gallon catch can.

Larger users in the same company dumped 55 gal. drums of waste down a dry well on the property.

Motorola That company was sued over the plume we created.

By the time the case was settled Motorola the company had stalled long enough that most of the original plaintiffs had died of old age or sickness.

Just another reason I like Shakespeare's comment, "First, let's kill all the lawyers".

....and yet, somehow Lyn, you managed to survive.

Stroke of luck?

It isn't really luck. It is just that as long as you have reasonable ventilation and you don't bathe in it, it really isn't that bad. I spent five or six years in a semiconductor outfit polishing silicon wafers and we used a boiling vapor degreaser to wash the wax off of the wafers after the polish. The carriers were vapor degreased as well.

This is the funny thing. Because some people were not reasonably careful with the stuff, they got sick or they did not dispose of the waste properly, then the EPA/OSHA comes along and punishes the rest of us for the sins of the few.

We paid to have our waste handled by an EPA certified hazmat outfit. Presumably, they disposed of it in a proper manner.

That kind of dumping reminds me that of what Lockheed did with their waste chemicals. They dumped them into a French drain in one of the tractor trailer unloading ramps. Burbank suffered a lot of health issues because of their dumping. And a lot of lawyers got really really rich of of it too.

You could try ortho phosphoric acid. This would also convert rust into iron phosphite

Alkali based cleaners like detergents could work but may need a higher temperature.

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