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Is Seattle Still Too Noisy?

Posted November 12, 2010 9:00 AM by Steve Melito

Last month, the Washington State Department of Transportation (WSDOT) installed the last of 700 noise control panels above the express lanes on the Interstate 5 Ship Canal Bridge. These specially-designed panels span 500-feet of roadway and are designed to reduce the noise from I-5 traffic that bounces into adjacent neighborhoods.

So how loud is this section of Seattle? According to WSDOT, traffic noise from the Ship Canal Bridge ranges from 66 to 87 decibels. That's akin to the sound from a moving train (70 decibels) or a jackhammer (90 decibels), both at 50 feet away. Above 66 decibels, people standing just three feet apart find it difficult to hear each other speak, adds the WSDOT.

With the new panels in place, agency engineers took their first noise measurements at 18 locations. Although the WSDOT's models predicted a drop of 4 to 5 decibels "close to the project site" and a drop of 1 to 2 decibels "farther away", the data tells a different story. Three locations experienced a drop of 3 decibels while 5 had no change at all.

Would you quibble over a decibel difference?

Sources: WSDOT Project Update and Noise Control Results Map

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11/12/2010 4:55 PM

I don't have any skin in this arena but I picked up a couple of pointers reading about Newton and corpuscular versus waveform light. The wavelengths for audible sound vary from a couple of centimeters to twenty meters. A barrier needs to be at least equal to the wavelength to throw a shadow, even then, the shadow diminishes with distance. Think of sea waves coming to a pole in the water, it throws no shadow; a stone jetty throws a shadow, but only so far, the waves spread back again.

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11/12/2010 7:19 PM

Hmm? The express lanes are on the lower deck of the bridge; did they box it in?

How could one get a controlled comparison? Who's to say the traffic loudness was the same before and after installing the panels?

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11/13/2010 12:41 AM

In taking sound levels in an iron ore processing plant some 25 years back I realized not many know much about sound levels and how sound can best be handled.

The plant had an maximum 80 decibel weighted average guarantee outside of areas where you had to wear ear protection. After considerable searching I finally found a location where that could be achieved - a couple of hundred meters from the from the plant and behind two immense ore piles.

As the years went by I came to the conclusion the best option was to design to deflect the sound waves upward. Seemed to be the only practical solution.

Providing a wall for the sound to bounce off of probably drove the sound levels on the roadway even higher.

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11/13/2010 8:53 AM

I've thought that too. They have put these vertical barriers along some of our limited access roads. I think they should lean to deflect upward.

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11/13/2010 8:57 AM

I've seen that in industrial plants - the last thing you want is a wall to make sound bounce back as it becomes worse than ever.

Sometimes we used louvers to redirect the sound up and away.

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