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Is the Future of Engineering Education Online?

Posted May 02, 2011 8:16 AM

Featured at a recent Technology, Education, and Design (TED) conference, educator Salman Khan has produced 2100 short videos, free of charge, for everything from algebra to calculus to physics. Online education is nothing new nowadays, but the open source approach is something novel. Khan envisions professors using the free videos as supplemental to lectures and classes, but could the future of an engineering education be completely served up online? Would you take classes online, or do you prefer the in-class experience? Would you hire an engineer who was educated online?

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Re: Is the Future of Engineering Education Online?

05/02/2011 1:54 PM

Great stuff!

I watched two of the calculus related videos (first two in the series, on limits). In general, they did the job, but there were some technical issues. I wouldn't like to see them converted to a "professional" video--I think the folksy approach is very good, but:

  • the sound level was uneven--when set to a comfortable volume for the loudest parts, there were other parts I couldn't hear
  • he may have done better later, but the "white" color used for drawing was very hard to see, and would have required turning up the brightness beyond the level I use for everything else
  • he could do with some drawing helps--maybe (for this video) some pre-drawn graphic grids to help keep lines (and alignment) a little better--I don't suggest it be perfect, just a little better--maybe he could/should draw on a graphics grid tablet with an electronic pen (I'm not sure what he was drawing on / with--I got the impression it was a mouse, especially based on the jitteriness (a word?) of the cursor at times)

I don't mean to sound as critical as I seemingly do--it's a great idea (I've had the same idea at times, but never followed through). I've written to my sister (a 7th grade (US) public school teacher, to see if she's seen these or can make use of them.

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05/03/2011 8:46 AM

SIMPLY REFRESHING!!

I say this as a (mostly) on-line, or through correspondence education in engineering student. Being an adult of now 3 grown children, (and while serving my country for 9 years) it would have been extremely difficult for me to attend a brick and mortar classroom environment while still trying to make a living. However, realizing that higher education is important, I knew I had to find an avenue that could work for me and yet still provide viable education.

I did some research to find an on-line program that was actually accredited for mechanical (wanted materials but could not find that discipline on-line) engineering. I found one that looked like it would work and took the info to my company to have it reviewed for tuition assistance eligibility. Naturally it had to be recognized through some accredited agencies in order to qualify and it turned out that it did. I was approved for tuition assistance and took the course for a 2 year degree. It took me about 2 years to complete. Almost all of it was either on-line or through correspondence coursework except the last 8 weeks. I had to attend a local campus to complete 8 weeks of practical lab work to finish.

As to a testament to the quality level of the education, I can say that I feel very comfortable around my peers when it comes to solving engineering challenges. I don't claim to know it all as I'm certain that I wouldn't if I'd attended Ohio State either.

The (rather long winded) point I'm trying to make is that I feel that I benefited from the on-line education. I plan to continue on as well. There are those short sighted individuals (normally kids) that feel that my education is inferior to theirs. However, my 35 yrs in the industry coupled with some formal education always seems to trump those folks. In short, don't judge it until you've had a chance to review it.

I'm all for it. If I were hiring a young engineer, I would evaluate that person on his/her knowledge and merits rather than the mascot on thier class ring.

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05/06/2011 9:35 AM

I agree, I would like to be able to continue my engineering education on-line but am having a hard time finding something that will work. Supporting a family and going to a typical school is hard. I took quite a few on-line classes through the school where I got my degree and loved them. I think taking on-line classes shows that a person has a lot of personal drive and discipline. On-line classes are not for everyone, because it takes a lot of discipline to stay focused and successfully complete them.

Having almost 20 years of manufacturing experience along with my degree has actual put me at more of an advantage than younger individuals just out of college with their 4 year degree. A lot of them don't understand the manufacturing world as given to them in a textbook. Hands-on experience is priceless.

I would be interested in any information someone would have out there for continuing my education in engineering on-line. Thanks.

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05/03/2011 10:54 AM

What a teriffic link, thank you. I watched a couple of quick ones to sample the content.

As a sole method of education I'm sure it would be incomplete and leaqve unanswered questions but as a supliment to the regular classroom fare these are great.

Now who is putting together the engineering set of videos for me?

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05/03/2011 8:03 PM

like this?

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05/06/2011 10:39 AM

This thread would miss out if MIT's open courseware (ocw.mit.edu) project wasn't mentioned. I've watched this site develop over the last ten years and found it a great starting point for more advanced topics.

I see education in general, not just engineering, moving towards 'the cloud' but I have a hard time seeing lab based activities making the jump. Those would remain in the classroom. Maybe we'll see a split in education where theory is taught online but hands-on learning is taught in a smaller, more specialized classroom.

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05/06/2011 10:43 AM

The "cloud" was attacked and crashed earlier this week - I wouldn't put a lot of faith in that 'net future'.

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05/06/2011 11:01 AM

Re: The "cloud" was attacked and crashed earlier this week - I wouldn't put a lot of faith in that 'net future'.

To what are you referring?

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05/06/2011 12:11 PM

Re: (from a previous post): The "cloud" was attacked and crashed earlier this week

Interesting! I missed that, and was connected all week. ;-) It must have been covered on Slashdot (which I rarely read, anymore).

Aside: That link was interesting--one of the very few links that failed to work in Firefox with java, javascript, and cookies enabled, yet worked in konqueror with none of those enabled. (In fact, without thinking too long, I can't ever remember encountering a link that worked that way.)

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05/06/2011 11:01 AM

It is acceptable to teach engineering technology on-line. However, hands-on training is required as part of the curriculum. One cannot expect all actual hands on training to occur after graduation. Employers will demand it. Invite industry representatives in to participate in seminar presentations either on-line or face to face.

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Re: Is the Future of Engineering Education Online?

05/06/2011 12:54 PM

I agree. As I stated in my previous post, the last 8 weeks were spent at an actual lab to conduct exercises related to mechanical engineering. While 8 weeks is not a great deal of time, I did learn volumes of information that I have used while employed in the working world. I'm not sure what the right balance is but I am sure there is one.

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