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Ford Demos a Car that Learns

Posted May 11, 2011 10:07 AM

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Researchers at Ford are testing a hybrid gas-electric car that makes an educated guess at where you're going whenever you turn the key.

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05/11/2011 10:46 AM

... more junk of dubious value to go wrong.
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05/11/2011 12:04 PM

Simpler to build a car that learns than build a company that learns.

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05/11/2011 3:50 PM

<reads the article and sighs>

Dear Ford

Please spend more time thinking about your target market rather than trying to give us sh%t we neither want or need, then we won't need to bail your arse out when the company falters in the face of global competition.

When you remove all the buzz words like predictive modeling, stored in the cloud, energy efficient, Google prediction service, etc you are left with two devices called an in car GPS navigation system and an engine management system.

If you cannot get your engine management software to work properly in the car then perhaps you should concentrate on fixing that problem first rather than trying to fix it remotely by using someone else's product (which is effectively what you are trying to do). Adding an IPod and a wine glass holder to a toilet does not a better product make, it just makes a crappy product more expensive.

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05/11/2011 10:46 PM

"a wine glass holder to a toilet does not a better product make"

hee hee hee.....

but are you sure about that?

I built myself a board for my tub, so I can read/write, and have coffee while soaking. It has led to lots of inspiration... perhaps the wine glass holder could have the same effect? how about a prune juice glass holder?

I do think that there can be merit in 'learning systems' in vehicles.. and maybe google is part of that... but I cant say that the article particularly strikes me as headed in the right direction.

if you took a taxi in a city every day... and the driver got to know your general habits, they would be able to predict some of your choices.. but to what effect... they still need to listen to the current choices, and figure out their route from their. I can see that knowing the traffic reports is relevent, but in a goal oriented system, this would have to be interpreted ad hoc, and choices made from the results... nothing predictive there.

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05/11/2011 11:00 PM

Just try marketing it commercially and see what happens.

....Oh right, this 'product' recently came to my attention

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05/12/2011 12:45 AM

Wow, Pinocchio learns to multitask.... (I couldn't tell if he pulled his pants down, though.)

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05/12/2011 5:25 AM

Daft though it seems, it may possibly find use amongs the dissabled? (or the people of Venice at carnival time)
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05/12/2011 7:34 AM

"spoil a serious post with flipancy..."

sounds like the definition of cr4!?

as to your original post... last week the power company phoned to advertise a planned power shutdown in a certain part of town, which included my bosses house. (husband and wife team) I notified my boss (wife)

things got busy... and my boss had to go to the city and thought he would take the Solstice... but when he got home, the garage door wouldn't open, as the power company had misquoted the day of the shutdown...

isn't it ironic. all that money to buy a sports car... and can't use it.

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05/12/2011 7:54 AM

Duh, why can't he just open the garage door manually?

Mine has a pull cord inside that allows you to manually lift the door.

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05/12/2011 8:18 AM

Don't be silly it's a 'manager' we're talking about.
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05/12/2011 8:24 AM

Good point. The Solstice should have been a dead giveaway, too.

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05/12/2011 7:53 PM

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05/12/2011 8:44 AM

And what happens when the system lags or crashes (not the car, just control module) like Google search engine does on me all the time since they added this stupid program?

They would be better off with voice command gps with favorites. person gets in, starts car, car asks "where are we going?" Person answers "home, work, or etc." GPS will already know the persons driving habits and optimize the car to that persons driving habits for that route.

I don't blame them for trying to improve the vehicle in this way, I just think they are going about it in the wrong way because they want to use the Google name.

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05/12/2011 9:48 AM

You wrote, "...person gets in, starts car, car asks "where are we going?" Person answers "home, work, or etc.""

That's pretty bad when you get to the point where you need GPS to get you to work and home again!

If we really need GPS that badly just to get to our favorite places then one would expect that 30 years ago the highways would have been littered with lost dead drivers like the dried bones of antelope on the plains.

Granted, I installed GPS in my car, but I use it to get to places that I do not know where they are. That amounts to less than 2% of my travels.

Which brings me to my point, for the other 98+% of my driving I don't need a "Bitching Betty" telling me what I already know to be.

So, while that may be what is called an intelligent learning car, maybe we would rather have a brilliant car that knows to shut up.

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05/12/2011 11:47 AM

"That's pretty bad when you get to the point where you need GPS to get you to work and home again!"

I agree! I still have my Indiana Gazetteer for getting around. Although, I wouldn't want to go without my GPS. It is very helpful when I am out doing inspections and trying to locate all of these businesses with air pollution permits.

My point wasn't that the gps is telling the person anything. The sole purpose of the system in this case is to optimism the car's performance to the person's driving habits.

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