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How China Makes It Rain with Anti-Aircraft Guns and Rockets

Posted May 24, 2011 8:01 AM

From Gizmodo:

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is claiming the West is stealing all of Iran's rain. Pricks! But perhaps he should have looked east, toward China, home to the world's largest weather manipulation program.

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05/25/2011 9:37 AM

That's not a monster machine, google "H.A.A.R.P"

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05/25/2011 1:02 PM

Makes me remember a book I read in my youth by Trevor James Constable entitled, "Skycreatures". Weather "engineering" wasn't the main subject of the book, but was mentioned as I recall. (It is an interesting book, in and of itself, for those curious about such things (as biological UFOs, aka "Skycritters"). You have to try to get past the paranormal rationales to realize there may actually be something here worth investigating. Supposedly, pretty basic photographic equipment is all that is necessary.

Now, all these decades later, this article brings this back into my memory. So I searched to see what links about Trevor James Constable show up and there are plenty to rile up any scientific mind. But the one directly concerned with weather manipulation is here.

Weather control has been a wish for almost as long as we've been around as a species. In our continental heritage we may all be familiar with Native American "Rain Dances." But the continued desire has led to efforts of a more technological nature. With all the odd and destructive weather patterns, you'd think more time, energy, and money would be put towards such research. I would be willing to bet the government has "black projects" of such nature. We all know now about their dabbling in "Remote Viewing." And I'm pretty sure this was spurned because of what the Soviets were doing, during the Cold War era. Which means it (black projects of this nature) had been going on for a much longer time than before it, relatively recently, came to light.

I am familiar with the idea that conspiracy theorists have, that we, as well as some other governments, have weather control projects beyond what is public knowledge. I don't know. But knowing what we do know the idea doesn't seem far fetched to me.

Sorry for so many links in one post. It just seemed to be the most efficient way to say this without a very long post.

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05/26/2011 4:34 PM

Back on 04-18-2011, I posted a thread entitled "Weather Modification". Most of the respondants replied that I was some sort of a wacko. This sounds like a good time to revive my original post. Here it is revived.

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Weather Modification 04/18/2011 1:00 PM
I've recently become convinced that our government and other governments are actively altering weather patterns as a means of warfare. With the recent un-precedented weather activity throughout the world, weather modification could be regarded as a weapon of mass destruction. Unheard of destructive weather has occurred in areas that have never seen such weather. Katrina and recently, torrential rains and flooding in Australia; the tornado's in the Carolinas, are unusual. Great Britain has seen snow storms; global warming could also be a result of weather modification, not all the hydrocarbons that the EPA claims comes from automotive exhaust and smoke stacks. A weather modification bomb (WMB) could become the ultimate weapon of the future, capable of destroying whole countries, and no one would be held accountable. This is not science fiction. It has been done successfully since the 1950's. If all of this is true, the world as we know it is on the brink of disaster. The result being new boundaries and the elimination of problem countries.
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05/26/2011 4:39 PM

Indeed, Ronseto!

Hamlet:
Swear by my sword
Never to speak of this that you have heard.

Ghost:
[Beneath] Swear by his sword.

Hamlet:
Well said, old mole, canst work i' th' earth so fast?
A worthy pioner! Once more remove, good friends.

Horatio:
O day and night, but this is wondrous strange!

Hamlet:
And therefore as a stranger give it welcome.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Hamlet Act 1, scene 5, 159-167

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05/26/2011 4:58 PM

Most of the respondants replied that I was some sort of a wacko.

Just because something has been labeled a "Conspiracy Theory" doesn't necessarily mean it is inaccurate; just because you are considered "paranoid" doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you.

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05/26/2011 10:09 PM

I don't find this at all biased.

The "Pricks!" in Iran have obviously read the growing Sahara science, which credits US atmospheric energy export.

Obviously smog reduction, in Beijing before the Olympics, and plans to counteract a washout, link directly.

Nor do I find bias in the parent (2008) article in such as;

"The Chinese government rarely shirks nature's challenge. It recently completed the $25 billion Three Gorges Dam, the world's largest, which was built despite the objections of environmentalists at home and abroad. Weather manipulation is an enthusiastic past-time for Beijing, possibly because so many of the country's Communist leaders are engineers."

It's those damn commie engineers. First China - next the World!

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05/27/2011 11:14 AM

You may find this of interest:

http://www.rexresearch.com/airwells/airwells.htm

in which we find:

"Sound does in fact produce rain at certain lakes in China's southern Yunnan province. People there simply yell for rain. The louder they yell, the more it rains, and the longer they yell, the longer it rains! This effect is possible because the air there is so saturated that sound waves can cause water molecules to condense."

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05/27/2011 10:31 PM

That site a very good assemblage - a pity it wasn't around, or discovered, back when there was a thread on atmospheric water collection (though most things in it were found/discussed)

Speaking of loud noises, back in the days of nuclear atmospheric weapons testing, there were a range of weather effects. But I guess it fails on clandestine.

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05/28/2011 12:44 PM

The data is pure gold, since any patent issued enters the public domain after 20 years. We have an unpatentable device based on some of the data that performs like this:

Given the dew points I have been monitoring in Somalia, a unit the size of a 53-foot trailer should yield from 15 - 25 thousand gallons per day, and can run on solar there. Byproduct cool air can provide refrigeration for a small village food supply. We were primarily interested in it as a water supply for a drip irrigation system to grow biomass for ethanol.

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05/27/2011 11:57 AM

The impression I got from some of the respondants was; weather manipulation by governments was not at all possible. Whether or not you call it a conspiracy theory, I still think there are "black ops" being carried out on both sides, their purpose being military, not to improve agriculture. Research is a good thing and it can be done for evil or good. Conspiracy theories are easy to create, but very difficult to disprove. Sometimes ther're created as a smoke screen to mask some other event. Because the Pentagon and State Dept. keep closed liped about such things as "who killed President Kennedy", it's difficult to believe conspiracy theories don't exist. I would never dismiss any conspiracy theory as impossible or improbable. It takes only a small piece of evidence to prove the existance of a conspiracy, but a whole lot more to disprove it. If you say "it's not possible", you are believing what they, (the establishment) want you to believe. A conspiracy can be compared to religion; you either believe or don't believe.

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